[laughter] samantha be, her strategy, steven claire kind of played the anti- vaccine activist spreadsheet just took it on directly and challenged her for a number of statements. when she came to my laboratory, actually haven't seen samantha, i didn't know who she was. when i asked my children if i should be on the show they said definitely, go on the show when she was there she was there with couple camera people and other producers, and i thought she was the producer pitching very quiet and shy and introverted. i can read women. i don't know what it is printed like a special gift or something. they bring two cameras to the interview, one to sort of see her reaction. she jumped up and scream wtf and ran out of room. it was just so they can get your expression. this is how it works but if you're willing to do this and want to get out there and try to communicate, he had to be willing to put aside any residual pride you had after 25 years of the granting process and do it. jimmy kimmel, i don't know if you've seen this one, this is one of the best ten minutes, sort of against the anti- vacc