and it's not, it doesn't take a genius to of international relations or of the caliber of steven cohen, for example, the sadly departed stephen, going to figure that out in the the dumbass simply was completely served under the carpet. and in fact, since 2014, when the problem came to the 4, all we've heard about russia was russia gate and a campaign, demonization of, of the russian government, and in the russian nation. culminating in it to the point that we have now. in fact, the, the armaments to that have been going to ukraine since in december this campaign was in full swing so long with at least 3 months before the war actually began. that was, that also flew in the face of the situation in dumbass where we've had no, i'm not sure of the reports, but i've heard 13000 dead. not, i don't know if they're all civilians, but certainly there is when you have 13000 that in this, in the course of 8 years since 2014 there's definitely a humanitarian problem in place. and clearly the what's happening overall in general, i think if you want to put it in a big picture, is much closer to a ci

steven l alert is here, former state department deputy spokesperson and fox news jupiter, glorious and greens st. patrick's day, 2020 libertarian party vice presidential candidate who hold the wall into tense right now, spike cohenwant to start with you in this talk about chemical weapons. his safety department trying to build russia into using them? >> if they did, it would be the first time u.s. government lied about weapons of mass disruption to inflame tensions and possibly use u.s. invasion. if that were to happen, we'd be treading new grantor. here's the new thing, we learned with u.s. government warning about invasion of russia and many people, myself included think that's not going to happen because they said it would happen, we say a broken clock is right twice a day, it turns out line clock can accidentally be right every 30 or 40 years so it could be possible they could use it, i'm not sure why, they have overwhelming military force and something like that could potentially lead countries right now staying on the sidelines including neighboring countries that could be affected by chemical weapons and things like that to have to get involved so i can't see why the what but they certainly could, i don't