we're talking to steven dennis from roll call.o today you have the durbin proposal and the court proposal. >> senator durbin wants to bring it down to 12 cents. what's the other proposal? >> the corporate tester plan keeps getting revised. the latest revision. initially they wanted to delay the rules a couple of years and water it down significantly. that had a lot of initial opposition seen as a way to kill it altogether. this one they say is more of a compromise even though none of the retailers agree with that. if this one delays any implementation for about a implementation for about a year, and it also gives the banks a lot more flexibility when they go to the regulators and say, hey, we need to justify a higher charge, you know? something closer to the 44 cents instead of the 12 cents. if the tester amendment passes, they'll be able to include a lot more expenses to justify a higher rate. and all kinds of overhead expenses that they can say, hey, well, we need to leverage this fee in order to pay all this overhead. and durbi

steven dennis as the front page story on "role called."ou can see the headline is "all talk, no action on jobs." here is the question of the day -- your advice to the president as he is still making decisions about the troop level in afghanistan. we will turn to the "wall street journal" on that crown on the decision. president barack obama will announce how fast -- military leaders have all avoided announcing their preferences the u.s. is accomplishing its goals and cannot afford all less intensive campaign. our question for you, as the president ponders the afghan troop levels, what is your message to him? beginning with florida, this is rick, a republican. caller: i agree with you. there should be a significant number that comes home and we keep up footprint to keep the bases and training the afghan army. host: is your reasoning that the job is done? caller: i think it has gotten as good as it can get. from hill, it goes downhill. host: rate, an independent in manhattan, you are on the air. caller: i believe that the president's decisio

we're talking to steven dennis from roll call. so today you have the durbin proposal and the court proposal. >> senator durbin wants to bring it down to 12 cents. what's the other proposal? >> the corporate tester plan keeps getting revised. the latest revision. initially they wanted to delay the rules a couple of years and water it down significantly. that had a lot of initial opposition seen as a way to kill it altogether. this one they say is more of a compromise even though none of the retailers agree with that. if this one delays any implementation for about a implementation for about a year, and it also gives the banks a lot more flexibility when they go to the regulators and say, hey, we need to justify a higher charge, you know? something closer to the 44 cents instead of the 12 cents. if the tester amendment passes, they'll be able to include a lot more expenses to justify a higher rate. and all kinds of overhead expenses that they can say, hey, well, we need to leverage this fee in order to pay all this overhead. and dur

steven dennis joins us live on the fun. thank you for being with us. set up the debate that we will hear later today. what are the issues and what is senator durbin specifically proposing? guest: we have a showdown between the banks and retailers. it is over a pot of money, about $1 billion a month up for grabs here. inside the beltway battle that's been raging for months. it hasn't really penetrated to the public, because they are not aware of the fees that are getting paid to the banks every time they use their debit card. it ends up being about 44 cents every time on average. the debate is whether that 44 cents is going to go down to 12 cents. that's what was voted for last year, but the banks have been the presiding officer: the senator from wyoming. mr. enzi: madam president, i would ask that the quorum call be ended. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. enzi: and i would ask permission to speak as one of the opponents of the amendment. the presiding officer: the senator is recognized. mr. enzi: thank you, madam president. i rise today to