here with more on the health of housing is beth friedman, ceo of harris stevens. good to have you with us. what are you seeing on the ground right now? new home sales, because basically, people who own used homes aren't moving. >> yeah, i mean, existing home sales are just stalled right now, because sellers don't want to let go of great rates that they have. so the new home sales are moving, which is a good thing. we just saw that warren buffet invested something like a billion dollars into home builders. so there's a big bet there, but i think buyers are on the fence right now, because rates have gone up. they have doubled. the highest they have been in nearly twenty years. so there's less affordability and there's less inventory. it's a little bit of a sluggish housing market right now. it's going to take some time to reconcile that and so we're kind of waiting it out. we wish it was busier, but we have a challenge with inventory and with rates and i think because inflation has come down and that's a good story and we did not enter a recession, that's another go