liz: steven, is this china or goldman sachs that's pulling down pretty much the broader markets here?it's more goldman sachs than it is china. i mean, china put a dent in the futures market this morning, but the selloff we're see anything the energy, materials and transimportants sectors, that's more of a goldman sachs thing. i'm a little bit okay now that i see gold is part of the move to safety. we're not seeing that. and we did get a strong technical bounce when we hit 19 79 on the s&p 500 earlier in the day. looks like we might test it again. it's about four points away. liz liz larry shover, there seems to be a better, more salubrious effect at least lately where people say the worst is behind us. >> yeah, absolutely. right now the market is not as positive as it was negative on february the 10th when we hit that low. but it's getting there. but people realize that we've had some good data points. ism number was good, we have construction spending, blf report, all of that is very good, and today it's like a breather after seeing a shockingly bad chinese export and import number.