who ended up being completely innocent and had steven hatfield taken his own life the fbi would have we are done here and walked away. unfortunately for everybody ivins took his own life and he obviously had problems and in that case never went to trial. i think it would have been good for everybody had that case gone to trial and we would have been able to see the evidence against him closure. there will be people who are never going to believe that ivins was the anthrax killer. >> host: the next call for matt apuzzo co-author of "enemies within" comes from john in managua wisconsin. joe you are on booktv. >> caller: good afternoon. i was wondering to what extent the public records laws either new york state public records laws or -- [inaudible] >> guest: no role whatsoever because the nypd basically ignores the open records requests on a regular basis. new york public advocate scored and my pds terrible for responding to public record requests. you can't get a police report as a reporter. you can get a mugshot or 911 call. they have a pressroom at the nypd called the shack and they

had steven hatfield taken his own life, they would've been done done here and what a way.nfortunately, for everybody, dr. ivan took his own life. he obviously had problems in the case never went to trial. it wasn't one of my takeaways. would've been good for everybody had the case gone to trial we would've seen the evidence and get closure. there are going to be people who never believed that ivins was the anthrax killer. >> host: next call for matt apuzzo, co-author of "enemies within" comes from john and an aqua. you are on booktv. >> caller: yes, good afternoon. to what extent the public records law at the new york state public records laws planned two-year reporting on the book? >> guest: no nowhere whatsoever because the n.y.p.d. basically ignores open records on a regular basis. the new york public advocate scored the n.y.p.d. is terrible for public records. you can get a police report as a reporter for the n.y.p.d. he can't get a mug shot, 9-1-1 call. they have a pressroom at the n.y.p.d. called the shack and they all have phones on the desk. if the n.y.p.d. wants t

the right man is that for many years they thought they had the right and therefore a guy named steven hatfieldwho ended up being completely innocent and had steven hatfill taken his own life the fbi would have said we are done here and walked away. unfortunately for everybody dr. i can stick his own life and he obviously had problems and the case never went to trial. i think it would have -- one of my takeaways is it would have been good for everybody had the case gone to trial. we would have gotten closure because they're people who will never believe the ivins was the anthrax killer. >> host: the next call for matt apuzzo comes from john in wisconsin. john muir on both tv. >> caller: i was wondering to what extent do public record laws played in your reporting on this issue and on the book lacks >> guest: no role whatsoever because the nypd basically ignores open records request on a regular basis. new york's public advocates scored the nypd has terrible for responding to public records requests. you can't get a police request. you can't get a mugshot 911 call. they have a little press room

who was completely innocent and had steven hatfield had taken his life the fbi would have walked away. unfortunately for everybody, dr. i've vans took his own life. he obviously had problems and the case never went to trial. it would have been good -- one of my takeaways, it would have been good for everybody had the case again to trial and we could see thed and get some closure there people who are never going to finally believe that ivans was the killer. >> next call from john in wisconsin. you're on book tv. >> caller: yes, good afternoon. i'm just wondering, to what extent did public records laws, either in new york state, play into your reporting on this issue and on the book? >> guest: no role whatsoever because the nypd basically ignores open record requests on a regular basis. the new york public advocates scores the nypd as terrible for responding to public records requests. you can't gate police report as a reporter at the nypd, can't get a mug shot or a 9-1-1 call. they have a little press room at the nypd called the shack, and they all have phones on the desk and if the ny