imagine exactly the same situation in 1967. >> steven henderson? >> yeah, it's really interesting to hear him describe that so clearly 50 years later, again, like think of how clearly he can recall those things. the one thing he doesn't say is, as heather was saying, is that this was selectively enforced. the police knew about the blind pigs in the city. this was part of the culture. it was part of the teen culture in detroit. and it was true in black detroit, and it was true in white detroit. but the problems and the tension only existed between police and the black community in these things. and this was not, as he points out, the only time they'd done that. and the only time that they had decided to go on and raid a place. but i do think that, you know, that night, there was something about that raid, there was something about the behavior in that raid that probably escalated things faster and to a higher level. it did spill out into the street, as he said, and there were people out there. and that's what becomes the flash point. >> michael is f