care and my response and i think a lot of people never had this response back well i don't want steven j. hemsley the billionaire c.e.o. of united healthcare telling me either and those are the two choices well except that they're not you know i mean one of the points that i make in the book is this is not the only game this is not the only form of capitalism in town and around the world there are other forms of capitalism and it you know we thought at the end of the cold war that we had sort of zeroed in on this sort of. this when francis fukuyama wrote about the end of history we had resolved other problems anglo-american capitalism had one we leave it to the markets state capitalism soviet communism excuse me sir so soviet cap was communism had lost a big state had lost one we end up with instead we've ended up with competing capital and most monopolies but i want to continue this conversation is this is this is more of tonight's conversations with great minds or david rothkopf coming up right after the break. you know the story. is if you understand it and the. other part of it and realized.