and by operating on standards, joe, that no other democracy -- >> so, steven, let's let steven actually much is this man willing to spend? >> that's the thing. he said i could give $10 million, i could give $100. the scary thing, they could give $1 billion. they could personally fund and not even notice. they'd both still be, you know, the top 10, 15 richest person in the country, wouldn't change the lifestyle a bit. $1 billion, i'm still worth $24 billion. and it's nothing. basically a u.s. politician is the cheapest investment in the market right now. you can pay $250,000, which is nothing to these guys and get a direct line to obama or who else. you can buy a senator now for $5 million. you could have your senator win, you know, it's for nothing. >> could newt gingrich be revived? >> i don't know if newt could be revived. it's not like they could give $1 billion to anybody, but it goes back and forth. you could buy all the air time, anything. we're going to have an arms race. these two sides throwing all the money. and at the end of the day, we're back at the same place. the people w