mall, the shuttle carrier plane turned down at dulles international airport, former astronaut steven lindseyhe commander of the last discovery crew said, "we need to preserve our history for future generations and send these off to museums to remember what we did, all the lessons learned from the shuttle we're using in the design of our space aircraft. we're updating the technologies but the basic principles are the same, everybody program bills on the previous building" is the mothballing of discovery and america's space exploration symbolic of america's decline? >> no! we're not declining, and this was a moment of history that people wanted to watch -- [overlapping speakers] momma whale with the baby on top. adorable. >> you know what your leaders, president obama did that the space? he killed it! >> he trimmed it back and congress dealt the last blow because of budget cutbacks. we can't afford to send men to mars right now. but i think the r&d continues, and this president sees the possibility maybe we can elect newt gingrich, who wants to establish a colony on mars or the moon or whereve