and bill herbert and steven miaki. >> that speaker over there. >> yes, i think that i can. my name is brendestobin you got close and thank you for the apology and i want to thank on behalf of the law library, i think that in times when the money is short that is the time that we need to expand the law library, especially now, you know the 50th anniversary, i think that we should be thinking about the fact that the type of justice that he receives should not be connected to the amount of money that you have. and i can tell you a a sole practitioner i can no longer afford west law in my home office than i can fly. and the guidance and the knowledge of the law librarians is critical to my ability to be able to do the amount of probono work that i do, to be able to serve some of the populations that i serve. half of, there must be dozens of cases where i would have been wasting a frightening amount of time on google scholar trying to figure out what cases were still relevant and what cases have been over ruled and times that i would have gone off or down entirely the wrong path

and bill herbert and steven miaki. >> that speaker over there. >> yes, i thk

. >> my name is steven miaki and i am a solo practitioner in san francisco as well. rather than repeating what has come before me, i just wanted to say that you know, i do use the law library a lot, practically over 50 or 60 times a year, but more importantly i speak for those people who cannot afford attorneys, because i also work as one of the probono attorneys for the bar association of san francisco. twice a month, free clinics and i also work for the u.s. district court federal probono project for indegent clients who are representing themselfs in federal courts. the questions that they have, i tell them, this is how you do it, go to the law library and there is a library in the memorial building and go to this book and do this. make the copy of this form and do this. and you know, i can't tell you how many times i have told my clients the people who are too poor to hire attorneys that are trying to do it themselves, to go to the law library. this is an indispensable source for not only the attorneys, and the legal community in san francisco, but for those peopl