the worst one of the lot was treasury secretary steven mnuchin. the problem here,e, david, is tt in my judgment, , and the floodf bipartisan agreement in this town, communist china is the single most existential threat this country has ever faced, and yet we had people like branstad in kushner and mnuchin and cohen and thenn later kudlow constanty working at back purposes through the president and to the guy who supposed to be doing the trade negotiations. so i stand by that. i'lli' tell you, three of the people who i was, this is the president's most damning word, most disappointed in, this kind of just blew my mind. you had the three generals. you had mcmaster and mattis and john kelly. kelly was a chief of staff. mattis was a secretary of defense. mcmaster was the national security adviser. now, you and i both know that the most important thing in the military, for the military to work, is chain of command. you are supposed to always obey the chain of command. and repeatedly these three generals would receive direct orders, direct orders from t

. >> steven mnuchin unterman nugent does it need me to defend him i'm not here to defend him, anybody that works in the white house for a particular period of time can cash in and all of a sudden a prominent figure who can sell books and deliver speeches. i think that's h perfectly fine but i don't know how his taking advantage of his wife is any difference of you taking advantage of the white house service and up capitalistic way. >> i guess my point steve came in without an ideology and their philosophy book i read when iut was a freshman and man without qualities as qualities without a man. steve essentially has no other purpose in life but to be rich, he could care less about policy, the welfare of the american peoplele, i say in the book thee are two people if they never darken the door of the whitehe house trump would still be there, he's one of them. the bigger problem the wall street transactions, you have to scratch your head why the head of goldman sachs, gary cohn with goldman sachs being one of the most prominent weapons to offshore american jobs in the economic policy in

some that stand out, ryan, we'll start with you, include then cabinet secretary, steven mnuchin.in the country when the insurrection happened on january 6th, but it has been long reported that he was somebody, a member of the cabinet, who was talking about the 25th amendment to potentially forcibly remove and i say forcibly, by the cabinet, former president trump from power. mnuchin acknowledges he did have at least one conversation with then secretary of state mike pompeo about this, but says it was not something they were taking seriously he said a report that came out in a book released in the last couple of years was inaccurate that he was any kind of driver in that push that was one of the highlights we are getting now from these transcripts. talk us through what else you're seeing, ryan >> i think you raise a very important point just to how serious the 25th amendment talks got. i do think if you take mnuchin's transcript then couple it together with some of the other cabinet secretaries that were going to read the transcripts of, we may be able to at least paint a picture

but i mean, in look at it, steven mnuchin does not need me to defend him and i'm him and i'm not here to defend him. but yeah, anybody that works in a white house for a particular period of time, in a high profile position, can quote unquote cash in is all of a sudden a prominent figure who can sell books and deliver speeches. i think that's perfectly fine, but i don't know how his taking advantage of his white house service is any different than you taking advantage of your white house service in a perfectly normal capital lipstick american way, i guess. i guess my point is that that steve came in without an ideology and there's a there's an old philosophy book. i read when i was a freshman. the man without qualities is qualities without a man. right. and steve essentially has no other purpose in life but to be rich. he could care less about policy, the welfare of the american people. but but i don't want to like if he had i'd say in the book that there were there are two people if they had never darken the door of the white house, trump would probably still be there. he's one of the