as something that comes from steven muller. but one kind of important thing to mention is that steven miller's laser focused on the immigration agenda and on attacking families. less so on attacking cartels and traffickers and things like tha that. that has created a situation where it has left americans more vulnerable to a range of real threats. like the pandemic we are seeing today. resources are diverted from fema for migrant attention. this has created a situation it's not just worrying about immigration policy. although that is obviously a central concern. it's also about looking at the broader national security question and how steven miller's ideology has affected as a whol whole. distracting on focusing masks and medical equipment focusing on suspending green card access because we have to protect american workers based on this idea that immigrants steal america jobs. let's shut down the border because people are getting sick from mexico even though there's more cases in the united states. it's bigger than the immigrati

. >> host: and in the inner circl circle, i mean where do you place a bill barr, steven muller?people as thinkers with ideology and philosophy? or just pragmatic day-to-day? >> bar comes out of the federalist society. i'm part of the federal society that argued very fiercely in the george w. bush administration for what they called the unitary executive. which basically meant that the executive is relatively unbalanced. the checks and balances that conventional thinking has around the president. we are not operative. both cheney and rumsfeld were very strong proponents of this point of view. and it actually had a great deal of impact. there are theorists of it, lots of lawyers who are developing theories around it, and so fort forth. and then you have the bulger review of it. which is trump say article two of the constitution i can do anything i want. >> right. they give him the ideology to support. so what i want to go to further places my time with the was running out for two for the things i want to touch on before he opened up the questioning. the first one, you've taken us