that will cause -- that will make a liar of steven pinker and i never want to do that. in a way what i want from the world more than anything else is a way for you each person to find such diverse ways of succeeding that it's too confusing to conflicts anymore. that might be a slightly complicated way to put it. where there's so many ways to succeed that people aren't as opposed to each other and interest anymore. we're members of so many classes. your both a nerd and islamic and punk or something. what, that's the path to peace. i hope we have a world of ever increasing diversity and skill. [applause]. >> thank you all for coming out here. let's thank sebastian and jaron again for speaking with us. [applause]. >> next, mayor mitch landrieu on building -- rebuilding new orleans after hurricane katrina. >> saturday, august 20 nine marks the 10th anniversary of hurricane katrina, one of the five deadliest storms in america's history. special coverage on c-span begins on monday. event. all day that evening at 8:00, more from the event. 8:00, a tour of the damage and recove