the extraordinary wouldn't steven rogers former advisor to donald trump's campaign back in 2016 thank you for your time appreciate that white pleasure good. let's look more at the transition of power through some models and scenarios which were created actually back in june this was the transition integrity project which gamed out a series of possibilities as to what could happen in the election and the transition did so with a number of former politicians governors and campaign managers who provided expert advice i think as a lot of those scenarios did not end well in fact they look a lot like what we're seeing now and say from gillman who's co-founder of the transition integrity project who explains the simulations his team ran through right well in june this year we ran a series exercises that basically try to game out what could possibly happen if we had a president who was unbounded by norms and unconstrained by his own party and what we concluded was that you know the results of the game were that absent a decisive victory for joe biden. the threats to the integrity of the elect

the existing administration perhaps even seek to run again in 2024 it's very possible and now steven rogers has served as an adviser to donald trump's campaign in 2016 and he thinks they will he says they won't be this chaotic transfer of power. no one denies the fact that president drug has the legal right to challenge a lot of these state totals now saying that of course they have to have the evidence that should be presented to a court and then the court will make that this is ins outs as to whether there is legitimacy to the accusations that were made and so i have to wait and see what happens with the court but saying that it's very important for the for the 70000000 people that's 70000000 americans who voted for president trump to get clarity and to get closure and the way you do that is to listen carefully and watch carefully the course that the president has taken and look if it does not come out in favor of the president i am confident contrary to what the mainstream media is saying there will be a very clean dignified transition of power but saying that i believe the american peop

let's bring in now steven rogers so here is a member of the don't trust the president 2020 advisory board he joins us now from new jersey thank you for your time sir we are hearing of course diametrically opposed interpretations of the situation as it stands both sides say they have a positive victory how you feeling. well both sides feel they have a victory and they matter will be no doubt in my mind adjudicated as the courts have to go to court it will but we won't know if any one of the candidates will take until perhaps later on if they were more or all of the votes are counted. ok you feel that all of the counts should be counted we have heard earlier from donald trump who has been raising questions about well talking about illegal votes. do you think this could get nasty well i do happen to agree with the president when i speak about all books to be accountable all those votes that were chast before that deadline of november there are in each one of the states one of the problems we're facing is that and sylvania for example they have a court has allowed of boats that are still comi

rogers, grateful your time, american hotel and lodging association ceo. i want to get back to our bloomberg exclusive. mike mckee joins us. he just spoke with steven. your take on these comments? the issue has been whether the outgoing administration has been trying to hamstring the incoming administration by taking money away, making it harder to use in the future. secretary mnuchin defending his efforts and suggesting it did not cause the kind of rift with the fed that has been reported. the secretary saying they speak multiple times a week, in close touch, and have an excellent relationship. coming.the fed this was he discussed it with jay powell. and draftedweeks word by word -- there is a clear date that is the expiration. that is not as clear as the secretary makes it out to be in the sense that it is understood he could have extended it and could have let the fed make loans up to the january 31 this moneyt with supposedly going back -- $260 billion because they have already spent a good portion of that not just on the fed lending --grams but other bailouts that this money will have to go back sometime at the end of the year, but it takes a