steven schafer, he wrote the insert that goes inside the bottle.e pharmacy with the little instructions, that's the man who wrote this. his saying that dr. murray's standard of care was so below where it should have been in the administering of this drug is number two for them. number three is the obvious, what we've always seen. the victim here is a celebrity, typically we see defendant celebrities and the jury wants to help them out and be nice to them. here we have a victim who is the celebrity. and that's got to play into the jurors' mindset. who do dr. murray's lawyers bring in? who do they put on the stand to say, there was a possibility that michael jackson did administer the propofol on his own? who do they have to bring in? >> they are bringing in dr. paul white, who is world renowned anesthesiologist. and he's going to say just the opposite, that michael could have done this to himself. michael could have taken additional drugs which would have interacted poorly and, hence, resulted in his own death. they're going to bring on their expert

steven schafer. >> people just don't wake up from anesthesia like that. >> reporter: he listed 17 cases of care. they painted him as a greedy star struck doctor had a would do anything to help jackson sleep. >> at the end of the day, you have a dr. white versus a dr. schafer. however, the prosecution is going to still argue that there was gross negligence, even if you don't consider propofol at all. >> reporter: prosecution witnesses have testified that propofol should never be given in a home. that murray should have never left his patient's side, and that he didn't have the proper medical equipment to revive michael jackson. for weeks, prosecutors slammed jackson's doctor, but last friday he flashed his first smile when dr. white testified. murray has pled not guilty but experts doubt he'll ever take the stand in a case that could go to the jury this week. nbc news, los angeles. >>> up next here tonight, what the first family is giving to trick or treaters in the white house. and the american city that has turned the art of scaring people into a real money maker. exclusive to the mili

steven schafer. white said schafer's estimate of the amount of propofol given to jackson could have wrong based on a previous study they had worked on together. >> the line, the solid i hline, dr. schafer's modeling of the pharmacokinetics of the drug. during surgery, you can see the model significantly underpredicted the actual blood level. >> reporter: the other witness was dr. robert waldman, an addictions specialist who says he believes jackson was addicted to the painkiller demerol and that withdrawal from the drug likely caused his crippling, desperate insomnia. several times waldman clashed with the prosecutor. >> i'm talking about your chart. >> where did the chart come from? >> you. >> thank you. and where did i get it? >> i have no idea. >> i told you before. >> excuse me. this is a fascinating colloquy, but we do have questions and answers, so let's have them, please. thank you. >> reporter: the defense could call one more witness, dr. conrad murray himself. jinah kim, nbc news, los angele

steven schafer. >> so is that good or bad for the doctor here?g to be just fine. interestingly enough, a lot of the points that a good defense attorney will be able to make on cross they can't do with this fellow because dr. schafer has already said i'm not getting paid. i'm doing this because i think it is the right thing to do. i don't want patients to be scared of propofol. i don't want other doctors to get a bad rap who use it when they are using it responsibly. >> what grade would you give the prosecution? how have they performed so far? >> i think they've hit all of their marks. you can't give 100% in a criminal prosecution but i would say 95%. when they wrap it in and close, they'll hit their 100% mark. >> what's the biggest challenge? the biggest challenge for the defense will be to get their experts to come out with what they need and say this is not below the standard of care. prosecution will have to come back on rebuttal. biggest challenge both of them will face, taking all of this medical testimony that's been going on for the past t

steven schafer who is supposed to testify for the prosecution as their last witness, and he had a death passed, which is another reason we're seeing a little bit of delay. so it's sort of a combination of factors. this judge has been fantastic about keeping this on schedule. >> didn't he say it would be just like three week snz. >> exactly. he's kept everybody moving and he obviously understands the need for the defense to look at this evidence and to present it to their experts because you don't want this coming back on appeal, if indeed there is a conviction, saying you denied us the appropriate time. so he's being careful to give everybody what they need, but i still think we're probably going to see it wrap up by next monday. i think we'll have it to the jury. >> wow. holly hughes, thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> now this. >> our firearms sales seem to have taken an increase. ammunition sales have gone up. we've sold out of mace three times this week. we've had quite eye few cameras we've sold for people to put on their property. >> an amish community shaken over recent beard c

steven schafer.ead attorney ed chernoff is pushing back hard on the anesthesiologist who's testified that dr. murray lied about how much propofol he gave michael jackson. in fact, things got downright testy on friday. >> you understand that everything you said in the last two days was your opinion. you do understand that. right? do you understand that? >> i stated my name, which i think is a matter of fact. >> you understand that dr. murray is literally on trial for his life. >> once today's cross examination is complete, the defense begins presenting its side. joining me now for today's "crime and consequence," former jackson defense attorney, thomas mesereau. so the defense is going to pick up its case today. probably putting on their star witness, dr. paul white to sort of i guess contradict what dr. schafer, the prosecution witness, has been saying. do you think that's a good move to start with someone like that? >> they have to. because the prosecution has presented a very clear, compelling, con

steven schafer.ution's expert witness, testified last week that jackson could not have self-administered propofol and that dr. murray is directly responsible for the singer's death. with just a day, maybe two, left in the trial before it goes to the jury, it basically boils down to this -- two experts, two doctors, two former friends. whose testimony will jurors believe? joining me now, former jackson defense attorney, thomas mesereau. let's talk about dr. white coming on the stand today. this is critical obviously for the defense. what does he need to say? >> well, he's a very renowned expert which surprises me that the defense got someone with his credentials. i think from the defense point of view, they have decided, in my opinion, that they can't refute the fact that dr. murray was grossly negligent in many, many areas. what they're trying to refute is that his gross negligence caused the death or that you can prove it caused it beyond a reasonable doubt. they're trying to show that michael was a