creating security theater joining me now to dig through some of the seedy details in this case is steven webster senior editor for raw story the f.b.i. entrapment cases nothing new this is happened time and time again we've seen even it's backfired in a couple cases at a mosque where mosque senior officials actually reported in the agent provocateur to the police because he was very overzealous in his motives. so right now senior editor for all story ok. and it is an interesting case because so many cases across the country some could argue that nationwide we're spending an exponential amount of taxpayer dollars on weeding out these potential terrorists when really is there really a threat after all. it's a very interesting case and we'll get back to that later for a place dubbed the largest spy center in the world menwith hill and britain certainly carries an unassuming name but for almost three decades now the complex run jointly by the u.k. and the u.s. has been targeted and even site seized by protesters in the latest demonstration just a couple days ago activists against again demanded that

terrorism or is it just creating security theater to dig further in this case i was joined earlier by steven webster senior editor for raw story he explained whether or not these sting operations are even necessary are they necessary i'm not quite sure but i think you have to be i would argue that they are. you're right to say that this is a pattern in their history throughout their history off the gotten close to the bad guys and let them believe they were going to carry out the various plot only to pull lives could write the last moment and reveal that their former to grow it would show. it's it's tough to debate with a broad brush if it's right or not some threats are you about it more severe than others and it's who are these occupiers. well it's really about his guesses as to whether they would have gone through with doing that they would have had the means to carry it out with f. without the f.b.i. involvement i mean you see that the f.b.i. supplied the transportation the bombs and pretty much everything else do you think that they would have had the means to do it well it's really impossible