i want to ask steven woodworth if you will talk about a name that inspired fear in the south today, and in the hearts of many of us who grew up there, and that's what he sherman. >> well, again, i am stephen woodworth, professor at tcu in case you couldn't tell. like general sherman osborne in ohio, so i'm a yankee. and you can tell by my lack of an exit. but general sherman was a really interesting character. -one of the most fascinating maybe the most fascinating generals of the war overall. he was a brilliant man. he thought incessantly, and he talked incessantly. one observer said that ideas would even come from like shots aren't repeating rifle, one after another after another. he tended to talk in extreme ways sometimes. he said things that were rather extreme, and i think that's part of his reputation. why he has the reputation as the genghis khan of the civil war, until the hon or whatever you want to say, because he talked more destructively danny acted. he also would probably get a chance discussed later had some shocking anti-portal ideas about race. when he was talking. but