stevie ray vaughn, jimi hendrix, i wanted to be that guy. that was my calling. still is.ld, i remember i thought, got it. i got my first guitar before i had lessons. parents say what to do? i say give them a guitar for two months and don't give them lessons. let them discover their nebulous take and then fold in on it. i found the mostcies distant room from my parents and played in the middle of the night and i immediately figured out chords. this is not revisionist history. i looked at it and went, okay. and that okay was so vertical, it went through everything in my lifetime i went, this is what i am. >> rose: two things you went through, one is obvious, the four years. but secondly, touring with the what's left of "the dead." what do you learn from that? a group that is so part of the american culture for certain people? >> yeah, for lot of people. i think they're a lot more accessible than their fans would like -- like, they're a lot more accessible, but people like the barrier to entry. i get it now. if it's presented to you in the right sequence of songs, it's pheno