we're back with kristen stewart, star of the new film "spencer."ed a lot of praise, leading to speculation about award season, that sort of thing. i've never been through, like, awards campaigns. i understand, like, basically that people who are general generally considered to be the frontrunners in a year have to do events, meeting the voters, that sort of thing. is that fun or more like a cattle call? ( laughter ) no, really, it's part of the business of show business. do you have to hang out with fun people, like the other actresses? >> yeah, and they're really cool. >> stephen: anybody you particularly enjoy hanging out with? >> i have been friends with kirsten dunst for years and it's been fun to see her more than i normally would. and i spoke to nicole kidman 45 minutes on a zoom call. and she sent me flowers and i was, like, oh, my god! >> stephen: she sent you flowers after the conversation? >> because she had a great time. >> stephen: that's a really good conversation. ( applause ) >> yeah. we work together, actually, years ago and she had

in the case of stewart rhodes, according to prosecutors, he was coordinating.e was giving locations to other people using signal, the encrypted app, to communicate with other members of the oath keepers, telling them, essentially, what weapons to bring, what they could get away with inside the district of columbia, and helping to coordinate the assault on the u.s. capitol that day. alisyn, victor? >> this is major. so, elie, seditious conspiracy, what does it mean? >> so, alisyn, let me break that down into its two component parts. first of all, sedition, the legal term, sedition, as it's charged here, means made an effort to interfere with a lawful function of the federal government. as applied here, they're talking about the effort to obstruct congress from counting the electoral votes and the second part is conspiracy. conspiracy just means an agreement between two or more people to commit a crime. here, they allege conspiracy goes way beyond two or more people. now, the thing to keep in mind is, this is really a landmark charge by the justice department. we

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stewart, rebuttal? mr. stewart: thank you, chief justice. let me respond to justice alito's question -- we are not prepared to concede that the fec regulation is invalid, but appellees did challenge that in this lawsuit. that is, at page 26 of the joint appendix, count four of the appellees' complaint alleged that the 20-day limit in the the resolution of challenges to the constitutionality of the statute. and then having held a that the statute was unconstitutional it said were dismissing the regulatory claims as moot. the implication was then the court would have proceeded to the non-constitutional challenges to the regulatory provisions. the weight the case was litigated produced this weird inversion of the way litigation is supposed to be handled. it's bedrock that if you have both unconstitutional and constitutional claims before you, the court is supposed to resolve the nonconstitutional issues first and proceed to the constitutional issues only if it is necessary to do so. the district court did not -- did the reverse because the way

." >> pauley: tracy smith is in consideration with kristen stewart, fresh from her triumphant screenal of princess diana. >> reporter: just the thought of playing princess diana made kristen stewart so nervous she could barely open her mouth. >> it gave my body a lot of anxiety that my mind didn't sort of know of. >> reporter: what do you think? >> it was a big deal. i didn't want to mess this one up. >> reporter: she need not have worried. kristen stewart loosens up later on "sunday morning." >> pauley: with ted koppel we're off to the big easy, where joyful music can break out any time, any place. ♪♪ >> reporter: jazz musicians in new orleans have their own special take on funeral processions. >> once the family car passes the trumpet player, he gives them a call, something like this... ♪♪ >> and then the crowd goes, hey! they hey is supposed to symbolize the time for bereavement is over. >> reporter: covid, jazz, and the big easy, coming up on "sunday morning." >> pauley: b bill whitaker assesses the sap of things to come. and faith salie has a thing to say about wordle. and we ta

you saw stewart rhodes up close and personal.t makes you so convinced he's guilty of these charges? >> stewart lived in my basement for several months towards the end of my tenure with the oath keepers. we spent a lot of time together, we got to know each other on a personal level. he spoke of things like this, what he would call a quick reaction force nearby that are more heavily armed. this is something that he's been doing as a leader of the oath keepers for quite a while. >> you saw the inner workings of the oath keepers. how dangerous was the organization? >> i think the biggest threat comes in their ideas. comes in their messaging. the real danger comes from kind of the lone wolf extremist set that are on the peripheral, that they're listening to alex jones, they're listening to stewart rhodes, taking it to heart. >> hey, guys. oath keepers here -- jason tatum. >> reporter: jason was featured in the documentary "homegrown." >> i have to own it. i was swept up, i was excited. and i was wrong. and i do, i feel awful about it.

you profiled stewart rhodes not too long about the january 6th attack.has a background some might not expect, yale law school, former clerk for the arizona supreme court. you spoke to somebody who was the first oath keepers gathering ever where rhodes laid out the tenets of what oath keepers would be. >> he started out as someone who was trying to fight what he believes in from the inside. so, yale law school, congressional staffer, walked the same halls of the u.s. capitol that his group members would later attack on january 6th. clerked the arizona state supreme court. to someone who was trying to undermine those same institutions that he was once a part of and really saw himself as outside of the system in a way that i think has hallmarks to the radicalization on the far right that we've seen from a number of these individuals. so, in stewart rhodes' case, he is somebody that started out preoccupied with the threat of big government and libertarian ideas that are fairly common in main stream political discourse in this country. he was skeptical of don

what will we see. >> reporter: well stewart rhodes is scheduled to appear in the next hour. it is a brief hearing for his initial appearance. the day after stuart rhodes was arrested in a suburb of the dallas-fort worth area and according to the 48 page indictment he is facing five criminal charges including that most serious carnal of seditious conspiracy and federal prosecutors are saying that rhodes and others spearheaded an attempt to oppose the peaceful transfer of presidential power and plotting to prevent this transfer of power using force. in that indictment they detailed some stunning and new allegations that we have heard. the most we've heard in the last year. the federal prosecutors say they intercepted communications that were used through the encrypted app signal in those text messages that they got and captured, prosecutors say that stewart rhodes texted we'll have to do a bloody, massively bloody revolution against them. that is what is going to have to happen. we are not going through this without a civil war. prepare your bond, mind and spirit. and the indi

members remotely john stewart please note you must unmute your microphone john stewart and subjects for live stream and c-span. from different locations at today's hearing all recognition for members will go in the order of subcommittees and you're ready. john stewart the e-mails provided to just now and the document will be entered into the record as we conclude today's hearing and i want to recognize myself for five minutes for in opening statement. good morning, all. what a distinct honor it has been for me in chairing the subcommittee the past three years and i wish to thank all the members who've reached out to me with well wishes following my recent announcement. this has been an honor to serve with such a fine assortment on both sides of the aisle and i want you to know that we are not done yet. i look forward to continuing the work with all of you in the congress, to continue to advance legislation that will help all americans. john stewart i want to thank everyone on this call and in this hearing. i want to thank you for joining us for enhancing the energy infrastructure and en

stewart, rebuttal? mr. stewart: thank you, chief justice.et me respond to justice alito's question -- we are not prepared to concede that the fec regulation is invalid, but appellees did challenge that in this lawsuit. that is, at page 26 of the joint appendix, count four of the appellees' complaint alleged that the 20-day limit in the regulation was arbitrary, capricious, and not in accordance with the law, and count five asserted a different nonconstitutional challenge to the regulation. the three-judge district court exercised supplement to jurisdiction over the regulatory challenges but held them in abeyance while it adjudicated the constitutional challenge to the statute, and i think that was for two reasons. first, the district court was under the misimpression that the statute itself was the current legal barrier to full repayment. and, second, the three-judge court understandably viewed its mandate as being the resolution of challenges to the constitutionality of the statute. and then, having held that the statute was unconstitutiona

film historian jacqueline stewart: >> some people like the term, the "magic of cinema."term, the "power of cinema," because i think that's where we can really look at not just what happens to us on an emotional level, but think about that as a kind of cultural power and political power. >> reporter: stewart is author and editor of books exploring film history, a professor at the university of chicago. and since 2019, host of “silent sunday nights” on the turner classic movies network, presenting and discussing silent films. she's also a newly minted“ macarthur fellow,” the so- called "genius award." her view: you can love an art form through critiquing it, a lesson she learned in her chicago childhood, watching films with an aunt. >> and there were always these moments when, like, a maid would show up, or white people are having a conversation on a train and there's a kind of porter on the side, and our eye would go to those people. and then i'd become curious about that actor. not just the character they were playing, but what was it like for them to be on the set in th

secondly, it adds the leader of the oath keepers, stewart rhodes.hat it tells us is that they're continuing to gather information about the oath keepers and anybody else who was planning to come to washington to carry out violence to try to stop the counting of the vote, joe. >> ben, you've had a chance to look over this indictment. what stands out to you about these plans leading up to attack, the day of, even after? >> well, you know, there is this big talking point on the right about where are the guns, where were the guns the whole time, these people were bringing in all these other sorts of weapons like mace and things like that, but why aren't the oath keepers, a very armed group of people, bringing guns to the capitol? now we know. they were leaving them at the hotel and with other people who they called quick response force or qrs. those people were to shuttle in the guns after they got control of the capitol, which is shocking but somewhat what we read on the internet on the day before the 6th. there is a picture right there of what was on

instruct them to move in that stack formation as they moved with the hand on one shoulder, and so stewart and now he has been arrested by the federal agents here. ana, prosecutors have laid out in detail just how involved rhodes allegedly was in directing the movements of these other oath keepers. they have documented his messages on signal, and that encrypted messaging app, and so the prosecutors have been building this case in the public eye for the past year, and now about a year later after he was interviewed by cnn and said that he was not involved in planning this attack at all, he has now been arrested by federal agents, ana. >> it is interesting that already the doj has talked about arresting more than 700 people, but we are now past a year after the january 6th insurrection, and this big name was just ar arrested. why did take it so long? >> well, ana, what the prosecutors have been doing is what jessica is just describing which is to try to build the case before they take action against stewart rhodes. the attorney general marek garland in the speech just before the anniversary

stewart, if i might, sir. i do have difficulty understanding this "manufacture" business, because he wasn't precluded from contributing to his campaign, so he could -- he was only precluded from repaying it from certain funds. so i don't know that was a manufacture injury as such. can we go to the specific point or one of your many points on standing but the one i'm most concerned about, which is that he in fact did -- had no injury because he had used preelection funds to repay his debt. and there was no bar to him using postelection funds to pay the 10,000. >> yes, i mean that -- >> that -- that's a different kind of situation. >> that's a different standing argument. that is an argument that the inability that he currently faces to repay the remaining $10,000 is attributable to the regulation rather than to the statute. but our argument about -- >> i'm not even sure it is attributable to the statute. is statute says you can't use postelection funds to pay off more than 250,000 of preelection funds. but if y

i guess jon stewart was trying to speak to them.o get into this argument, because we have debated us tirelessly over the last few years per there's a difference, as well points out, between it's been a tradition in between this being the letter of the law appears plane for the anthem, standing for the anthem, is nowhere written in the law books in this country. but it is a tradition. it should be up to individual americans what they want to do. >> my view, i love, as emily said of the top of this, that moment of unity. before you grab your beer and enjoy the game, two opposing team's head off. this moment of, we are all americans at the end of the day. your thoughts. >> yet. i just don't think politics is any place on the playing field. if you want to complain about being proud of being american while watching a football game. [inaudible]. >> i'm with you. coming up, the woke left going after actress kristen bell after this photo went viral on social media. more outnumbered, after this. ♪ ♪ new year, new start. and now comcast busin

stewart rhodes started this organization in 2009.fter what happened on january 6th, the attack on the capitol, because there were people who were part of his organization, who had been arrested. they were the first people who were charged with conspiracy charges in the january 6th insurrection. and he said, yes, a couple of those people are definitely members of the oath keepers. he said i don't necessarily agree with them going into the capitol, but, you know, we really do have a problem here. and those were kind of his words after these charges have come forward, after what we all saw happen on january 6th at the capitol. and he's talked a lot about a lot of different things, but 24 days after the insurrection, stewart rhodes goes on info wars, the right wing conspiracy ladled online show, and he talks about exactly what he thinks should be done, he talks about the biden administration as being illegitimate. he continues the big lie. and it is like he's making a call to arms to the folks that are members of his organization and to

stewart rhodes is one of eleven defendants who the justice department charged with sedition on thursday for their involvement in the january 6th insurrection. >> these are the most significant charges in the investigation so far, and prosecutors say rhodes and others were plotting for violent takeovers well beyond january 6th. these indictments detail the arsenal of weapons and equipment they brought to the capitol and purchased in the weeks following. >> cnn justice correspondent jessica schneider joins us live. before we get to rhodes, another defendant, edward viejo just appeared virtually for his federal court appearance in arizona, what did we learn from that one. >> the hearing, the initial appearance just wrapped in federal court in arizona. the way it's laid out, he'll have another hearing next thursday. that will determine if he's eligible for release. he will be held until then. it's all because he is facing this serious charge of seditious conspiracy for allegedly plotting to violently overthrow the government along with ten other dfefendants including stewart rhodes who we'r

stewart and i concur. mr. rhodes followed hey the founding generation stormed the governor's mansion in massachusetts and tarred and feathered his tax collectors and seized and dumped tea in the isi erest likan water didn't fire on them, but they street fought. that's where we are now. next comes our lexington. it's coming. just one more thing i want to share with you from today's diameter because it continues beyond january 6th. there is a section of the wesg. y b titled coconspirators continue plots after, quote, throughout the evening of january 6th, 2021, the co-conspirators discussed the need to continue fighting to stop the lawful transfer of presidential power. in the weeks after january 6th rhodes purchased a large volume of firearms and related equipment. the indictment then lists thousands of dollars, tens of thousands of dollars worth of sights and bipods and mounts and baugsen a gun grips, ammunitione gun cases, hollisters, and gun maintenance equipment all purchased by mr. rhodes at that time. you

as did stewart rhodes, the alleged brains behind this entire operation. after the election, he began to, quote, encourage members and affiliates of his organization to oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power. you can see there the sort of call back to the seditious conspiracy language. also, how he and his allies, quote, began recruiting others to travel to d. c., to participate in operations aimed at stopping the transfer of presidential power. they coordinated travel across the country to enter washington, d. c., equip themselves with a variety of weapons, dawned combat and tactical gear, and were prepared to answer roads call to take up arms at rhodes's direction. to be absolutely clear here, those are all quotes from an indictment, rhodes and caldwell and their associates. that are all innocent until proven otherwise in the court of law. but we should say this, rhodes did do a fair amount of this plotting in public. take this november 10th 2020 episode of conspiracy theorists alex jones'internet show. where in the middle of detailing

stewart rhodes has been doing that a long time. he said get in there and fight but tends to walk away. this time he's part of it. he's been charged. he's been read to rights. how would law enforcement agency that wanted to break these kinds of momentums toward this kind of anti-government conspiraies that escalated from montana out west to the capitol, how do you undo it? how do you get in there? what do they need to do? >> here is the dilemma. we saw on january 6th a failure to act upon available intelligence. people were afraid of the intelligence. people are understandably law enforcement agencies do not want to spy on americans. they don't want to violate civil liberties but we have to allow them to do what they can do within the law and within the law, joy, they could have seen that intelligence, getting reports could have opened at least threat assessments if not full investigations to study and analyze what was happening and develop further intel about january 6th. the handcuffs have to come off of federal law enforcement to

stewart rhodes is the leader of an extreme far right militia group and has been charged with 10 otherporters tried to overthrowjoe biden�*s election victory. here's our washington correspondent, nomia iqbal. more than 725 people have been arrested and charged by the attack that shocked the world. but this is the most serious indictment yet, and the first for a seditious conspiracy, defined as trying to overthrow the government. it is alleged the government. it is alleged the oath keepers planned an attack the moment president biden�*s victory had been made official. they are a loosely knit militia that believes the us government has been corrupted by elites stop leading the charge was a yale educated lawyer and army veteran stewart rhodes, claim investigators. they say in december, the month before the attack, he organised the violence using encrypted apps. speaking to one local oath keeper chapter, he said... he appears to confirm a plan in the run—up to january 6th on the run—up to january 6th on the info was a conspiracy site. what we are doing is we have men already stationed outs

according to prosecutors, 0ath keeper founder — elmer stewart rhodes iii — told followers in december, bloody revolution against them... that's what going to have to happen". he's previously said members who entered the capitol onjanuary 6th were "off mission". earlier i spoke to ron filipkowski, a veteran, former prosecutor and current far—right researcher, about the severity of these charges the charges are just below treason. it is second only to treason as far as federal crimes go. the 0ath keepers, there are a number of paramilitary groups in the us that my team monitors — proud boys, 3%ers — but of the different groups the 0ath keepers have the most military which is one of the reasons they were the most sophisticated of the groups on the 6th of january. i refer to them as the tip of the spear of the people that went into the capitol building. they were some of the first in, the most well—equipped and they trained for it. they were pretty brazen leading up to the 6th of january, on social media saying what they were going to do. they also used encrypted message servicing, as wel

and who knows if stewart rhodes might cooperate. >> jessica, thanks very much. >> now sara sidner.ou reported extensively on these so-called oath keepers including mr. rhodes. tell us about him. >> look, he was certain unapologetic after what happened on january 6th. then we went looking at some video and found that he was actually there, he was standing there. you can see him in pictures and video. with other members of the oath keepers. then you see these pictures of a group of oath keepers, nine or ten of them, all together in a row, in a stack, very much how the military might operate there in military garb, many of them, and we see them go in and breach the capitol. some of the members of the oath keepers, three of them, they were the first people to be charged with conspiracy for the january 6th insurrection. stewart rhodes, though, was never seen going into the capitol, but about 24 days after the insurrection happened, we heard from him. and we heard exactly what he thought about what was going on with this new administration, the joe biden administration. and he was encour

stewart. out the contradictions in the stark contradictions and the rollout that hit home and i would point outou to echo what was said earlier, i mean and it also echoes what ms. keenan said the contractors got signed documents the dod itself is not liable because dod does not fall under the same regulations that other businesses in the united states fall under or governments fall under under osha. osha standards would never allow these burn pits to have existed. it's common sense to know that a burn >> of the sites you mentioned earlier is mr. stewart would not be tolerated in any community in the bones of united states of america. it just would not let dod can do it decodes dod is not bound by osha regulations. dod is an entity itself so i want to thank each of you for your attendance at today's roundtable discussion. when our country goes to war we pay for the arm or the guns and tanks that are servicemembers need and is mr. stewart said it's a matter of the priorities that we set. but you

it's leader, stewart rhodes, some of those who went into the building where of mission and he had notation the months before this.- the months before this. yes. nine of the _ the months before this. yes. nine of the people _ the months before this. jazz nine of the people underneath him have already been in custody for several months so i would think that the number of them have already cooperated and spoken to federal authorities and most likely given statements against stewart rhodes, and that is one of the things that led to this indictment, i'm sure. so i am sure they have quite a lot of evidence. i posted on twitter today a video of stewart rhodes two days before january six, where he laid out exactly what he was going to do that day, two days ahead of time. going into a bit more _ two days ahead of time. going into a bit more detail - two days ahead of time. going into a bit more detail about. into a bit more detail about the 0ath keepers. they believe in the deep state, they believe the government is infiltrated by marxists. what more do they say, and what evidence do they have

near dallas yesterday, the fbi removing evidence of the group's leaders, stewart rhodes. he sent these messages to his followers after the 2020 election. >> reporter: investigators say he spent $17,000 on weapons and tactical gear in the weeks before the attack when he said this -- >> we have men stationed outside of d.c. as a nuclear option in case they attempt to remove the president illegally, we will step in and stop it. >> reporter: then on january 6, several oathkeepers were seen here marching up the steps of the capitol. investigators say other members were armed and stationed nearby, in an effort to stop the certification of joe biden's election victory. but the alleged conspiracynot en day, an associate of rhodes messaged a group saying, after this, if nothing happens, it's war. civil war 2.0. rods is due in court today. he has repeatedly denied any wrong doing. if convict, he could face 20 years in prison. as for the house select committee investigating the attack, it's focusing on social media companies, sending subpoenas to facebook, google and twitter. >> fai

it's extraordinary. >> just think stewart what is happening with january 6th. npr is reporting they are considering asking the former vice president mike pence to voluntarily appeal. if pence cooperates with the investigation in some limited fashion, do you think the changes that that will change the game in any way? would it give cover to republicans to finally step up for our democracy? >> no, i don't. i mean, i think you saw it yesterday when there were two republicans on the house side, the cheneys. the party is lost. those -- i have a lot of friends still that think you can save this republican party. it doesn't want to be saved. it like someone drowning if you go to swim, they will try to attack you. the republican party is what it wants to be and we keep trying to think it's going to revert to something. no, it's not. this is what they want to be. >> hey, stewart -- >> no desire to change. >> you said something to me that i think was very important. you said this isn't about donald trump. what donald trump did, this is more about the republican party. do

stewart rhodes showing up in a dark t-shirt and jeans before the judge. he waived his right to have the 48-page indictment read out loud in the courtroom, but attorneys for stewart rhodes say right now they are focused on getting him out of jail while he awaits trial. the judge has announced next thursday they'll hold a detention hearing where they can present evidence to determine whether or not stewart rhodes will be held in jail and confined until his trial. he's facing five federal criminal counts, including that charge of seditious conspiracy. all of these face up to 20 years in prison if he is convicted. rhodes appeared very calm, kind of unfazed by everything that was going on. even as he was standing there in the courtroom shackled in handcuffs today. >> ed lavandera, thank you. >> joining us, george conway, husband of kellyanne conway, counselor to former president trump. he was considered once for the role of solicitor general. george, the justice department is filing its most serious charges yet in this investigation into the january 6th attack

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. >> tasha adams is the estranged wife of stewart rhodes which is facing sedition charges.he helped to found the oath keepers before it became the group that it is today. tasha, thank you so much for being with us this morning. our estranged husband hasn't been convicted yet. but when you hear the former president, donald trump, dangle the notion of pardons for, i presume, your estranged husband and the other capitol rioters, what's your reaction? . >> absolute terror. it's already been a huge roller coaster of a couple of weeks since he's been arrested with the threat of maybe not getting bail or maybe getting bail. it's just been back and forth. it's not just terror for me. it's terror for a lot of these families. as a lot of people know, there is a huge correlation between violence in the home and willingness to commit violence in the streets. and a lot of the families took the opportunity of this sort of sanctuary when their family members were arrested to apply for protective orders, restraining orders. some of the families themselves turned in their family member beca

well, federal prosecutors say stewart roads, quote, stood at the center of the seditious conspiracy torevent the peaceful transfer of presidential power. all of this dating back to the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol. attorneys for stewart roads say that he is not a flight risk, he doesn't have a passport, and he is not a danger, and that he plans to continue fighting these criminal charges against him in court. but federal prosecutors want to see stewart roads held in jail until this trial is heard before a jury. they say that rhodes was the leader of this conspiracy, that he had texted members of the oath keepers group in washington, d.c. for the january 6th event saying that we are not getting through this without a civil war. and that rhodes had spent thousands on of dollars a massing an arsenal of weapons, firearms, and tactical gear. they say he could be someone who obstructs justice if he were to be released on bond, tampering with witnesses, talking to witnesses, that sort of thing. if there's any indication, last week, one of the other oath keepers who was arrested in a

i, i wasn't entirely expecting this indictment or that arrest to happen. traditionally, stewart road has been pretty risk averse, and he's been pretty adept at avoiding too much legal scrutiny directed at himself . it seemed based on the public information that i had seen before. yesterday's indictment that he might have been successful in doing so again regarding the january 6th attack. but as we now know, the department of justice has plenty of information regarding his involvement or his alleged involvement, i should say. in planning for the criminal activities that are keepers engaged in on that day. we understand there are an estimated 30000 members of keepers across the u. s. these are what former military and police officers also like stewart roads, there will educated some of them, or even ivy league graduates. i mean this is a different level of threat that we are looking at or, or is it not? how would you describe it's a little bit difficult to assess what we might think of a demographic information about o keepers. the group has long claimed more than 30 or 35000 dues payi

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