people in in russia if it is half a million or 1 million then to have 100,000 people so how many stiefelare less now with your assessment? >> a very difficult number but i can answer this way. you probably have heard over the last weeks we have been trying to not only observed what is going on but to a range to go down for a ceasefire but so civilians can return but in the most recent report that villages now empty and that could have been avoided your also at the village closest to the airport to a few weeks back it is virtually empty. whole lot of us settlements you have but those that are left behind are indeed elderly or physical disabilities and some children. every also have to amend it -- with the toll it takes with the number that are killed and injured with a social the stresses and even before the conflict it wasn't very well set up as a large number is it possibly help what they want is a sense of formality thought. i worked as a long time but to have a prolonged period of time with those deserted villages what you do with this region? it doesn't seem to exorbitant and what do