. >> and i think even more interesting than it might be given the, as you say, the high stiek staiks. david, doug, thanks so much for being with us. >>> next, a well-known author and filmmaker is here with some personal recollections of justice scalia. don't go away. >>> our breaking coverage continues tonight with more reaction to the death of supreme court justice antonin scalia at age 79. joining me now is author of "stealing america" dinesh desousa. good evening, thanks for being with us. now, you actually knew justice scalia. can you tell us when you first met him and how you came to know him? >> well, i didn't know him well. i actually met him through my pal laura ingram who i believe clerked for him. and so i spent some time with him and i remember particularly some very engaging conversations about ways in which interpreting the constitution is in some ways analogous to interpreting the bible. and also interpreting literary texts. so he had a very elastic mind and was able to look at different ways in which we read a text, not just in terms of what the author intended, but als