this is the exact same thing that sergeant stiger has already testified to and would be similar to what lieutenant marcil testified to and all of the other witnesses including chief arradondo. so this would be roughly the sixth or seventh opinion relative to the use of force in this case, using the minneapolis training materials at least in part and it's my understanding that what the state instance to do based on the monster the exhibits have been provided to me that they intend to walk through this video once again minute by minute second by second stopping the video playing various parts and discussing what has already been discussed numerous times throughout the course of this trial. in addition, your honor, secondarily on friday evening i should say upon returning from court i was served with a secondary or supplemental report from seth stoughton on matters completely unrelated to the use of force in terms of analysis, audio analysis of the statement -- statements stateme during the course of this trial. ultimately that is entirely irrelevant. we are talking about the statement i a

>> yes. >> if i say, hello, sergeant stiger versus hello sergeant stiger, there's two different tones and my tone can convey meaning? >> yes. >> if i start calling you names, that conveys a meaning, right? >> yes. >> and saying things like you're a [ bleep ], that conveys a particular intent, agreed? >> a reasonable officer, if they could perceive that as a threat? >> name calling? i would say it depends on the officer's training and experience. >> okay. but an officer, a reasonable officer could perceive words that people are saying and the tone that is it being said in as a threat or a risk to the officer's safety, agreed? >> a risk possibly, but officers are typically trained that when it comes to verbal threats in and of themselves that you can't just use that only to justify force. >> you had, again, an opportunity to review minneapolis police department's training materials, if we could pick this up. can you see what is in front of you, sir? >> yes. >> you reviewed, i presume, as part of your analysis the minneapolis police department's crisis intervention technique training, co

. >> creates los angeles police department use of force expert sergeant jody stiger testified didn't want to. george floyd was in handcuffs on his stomach. officers should have stopped using force because of the time of their strength period. >> mister floyd was not resisting. he was in in the prone position him. he was handcuffed. he was not attempting evade. he was not attempting to resist and the pressure that he was that was being caused by the body weight. to cause positional asphyxia, which could cause death. >> but steiger who reviewed video of the arrest says officers continue to use deadly force on mister floyd, but almost 9 and a half minutes and failed to meet the so-called objective reasonableness standard. police must legally follow when interacting with suspects. his testimony today followed his testimony on tuesday calling the force used excessive and noting that in most low level forgery cases force isn't used at all. stiger also pushing back against defense assertions that instead of paying attention to floyd officers were concerned by the threat of onlookers calling

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joey stiger. >> thank you, your honor. sir, how are you employed? >> with the los angeles police department. >> in what capacity? >> i'm a sergeant. >> and you understand that you are here today serving as a retained expert in the state for this matter. so this is outside your typical duties as a sergeant with the sergeant with thepolice departm. >> yes sir. i'm on vacation. >> welcome to minnesota. >> before we begin the testimony, i would like you to introduce yourself and share a little bit about your background. how old are you? >> 50-years-old. >> you indicated you are with the lapd. can you describe for the jury how you came to be involved in l law enforcement. >> yes. so, shortly after leaving the marine corps i joined the los angeles police department in april of 1993. yesterday was my 28th anniversary. after graduating the police academy, i was assigned to a control division and from there i was recruited to work on the cover in the high schools. >> the los angeles high schools. you were working as an undercover. how long did you have that

that was just sergeant stiger testifying there. use of force instructor in the los angeles police department, lapd. we saw him dissect individual frames from police body camera footage between that encounter between chauvin and floyd, trying to add more perspective to what happened that day. let's head back into the courtroom now. >> some additional trial preparation yesterday with the prosecution, right? after your testimony. >> no. we had a brief conversation but no trial prep. >> you and i have never met or spoke, right? >> correct. >> you are aware that prosecutors give summaries of those meetings? >> yes. >> you also testified yesterday that in your role with the los angeles police department and the office of -- >> inspector general. >> thank you. you reviewed thousands of use of force cases, right? >> yes. >> it's fair to say that those cases range in terms of the use of force, right? the types of force used are variable? >> correct. >> some cases may involve whether an officer should have punched a person, right? >> correct

jurors heard testimony from jodie stiger who first took the stand yesterday. a use of force expert said that chauvin's actions served no purpose once mr. floyd was in cuffs and lying on the street. >> the handcuffed were not double locked? double locked meaning that they were not -- they could continue to ratchet tighter as the person moved. >> were you able to hear instances of what you recognize to be ratcheting during the review of the body worn cameras? >> yes. >> so in the principle of pain compliance, if i understand your testimony, you would inflict pain for the purpose of having the subject obey your command? >> yes. comply. >> what if there is no opportunity for compliance? >> then at that point it's just pain. >> chauvin's attorney pressed him on whether police conduct can look bad on video but still be lawful. >> do you participate in a training or present a training or have anything to do with a training called awful but lawful or lawful but awful, something like that? >> yes. >> so you would agree that general concept is sometimes the use of force

if i say hello, sergeant stiger, versus hello sergeant stiger,, right? there are two different tones and emmett till can convey meaning, a great? >> yes. >> if i start calling you names that conveys unmeaning, , right? >> yes. >> and saying things like you are a bitch, that conveys a particular intent, agreed? >> i wouldn't say and intent. >> a reasonable officer could foresee that or perceive that as a threat? >> name-calling? i would say to bintan officers training and experience. >> okay. but an officer, a reasonable officer could perceive the words of people are saying and the town that it is being said in as a threat or a risk to the officers safety, agreed? >> i risk possibly but officers are typically trained that when it comes to verbal threats, that you can't just use that only to justify force. >> now, you had again an opportunity to review minneapolis police department's training materials -- if we could take this down. can you see what is in front of you? >> yes. >> you reviewed i presume as a part of your analysis the minneapolis police depa

first on the stand today, lapd officer jodi stiger, an expert analyzing the knee on george floyd's neck. stiger said the knee to george floyd's neck for over nine minutes constituted excessive and deadly force. she also dispensed the theory that the crowd could be to blame for chauvin's actions. >> i did not perceive them as being a threat. >> why is that? >> because they were merely filming and they were -- most of it was their concern for mr. floyd. >> sometimes an officer will walk into a situation, have no sense of risk or no sense of concern, but they have to prepare for the unexpected. agreed? >> i wouldn't agree with that. i believe, based on my training and experience, most officers know that when we respond to a call, we know there is a risk factor, we just don't know what level depending on the severity of the call. >> stiger went on to say that you can hear on the video derek chauvin responding to what george floyd was saying which could indicate he was not distracted by the crowd. the defense also argued that use of force policies can differ among police departments. not eve

. >> reporter: attorney eric nelson cross-examined sergeant jody stiger of the lapd, a use of force expert, who said chauvin's actions were excessive. nelson drilling down, arguing that a crowd of bystanders distracted chauvin stiger shot back that chauvin's 866 hours of training should have prepared him >> even i was surprised that he has the audacity to say oh, it's the crowd's fault. these angry people which i think is a suggestive way of trying to say these angry black people it's just asinine. >> reporter: in that crowd a 9-year-old who testified earlier in the trial. the prosecution says the bystanders weren't dangerous. they were concerned. >> did you see anybody throw any rocks or bottles? >> no, i did not >> did you see anyone attack, physically attack the officers? >> no, i did not >> reporter: but the defense is also raising more questions about floyd's drug use, playing a short clip from a body camera to special agent james reyerson with the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension, who investigated the police floyd's pained voice is heard while he's being restrained >> does i

stiger talked about being on the panel. they have five officers on a panel to assess whether uses of force are reasonable. sometimes it's 4-1. sometimes it's 3-2. sometimes it's 5-0. because the reasonableness of the use of force is not an easy thing to consider. i know, again, and i'm sorry, i'm long-winded. there are a couple of other things i need to talk about very briefly. i promise i'll be as brief as i can. before i get to the cause of death. first is that concept of intent. as the state showed you with respect to counts one and two, you have to address mr. chauvin's intent. pay careful attention again to the instructions. words have meaning. intentionally or intentional, means that the defendant either has a purpose to do the thing, or cause the result specified or believes that the act, if successful, will cause the result. in addition, the defendant must have kthat are necessary to mak conduct criminal, and that are set forth after the word intentionally intentional. the same, you'll see a very similar instruction

. >> reporter: and the jury heard from use of force expert sergeant jody stiger. >> my opinion was was that the w was excessive. >> reporter: stiger is with the los angeles police department and has worked in some of l.a.'s toughest neighborhoods. >> once he was placed in the prone position on the ground, they should have slowed down or stopped their force as well. >> reporter: meanwhile, a key witness and floyd's friend, maurice hall, made an appearance in court today via zoom. he was sitting in the s.u.v. with floyd when officers approached their vehicle last may. hall's lawyer says her client is refusing to testify about whether he provided drugs to floyd, fearing self- incrimination. >> give this family strength. >> reporter: today, george floyd's family and supporters held a prayer service outside the courthouse. >> but one thing i can tell you, after we get the verdict and we get this conviction, we'll be able to breathe. >> reporter: the prosecution is expected to start calling investigators of the murder case to the stand. we will likely hear testimony about floyd's drug use as

, sergeant stiger, described this. when the apparent attempts to get him into custody were futile, i wrote his quote down, the futility of their efforts became apparent, they weren't able to get him into the car, three minneapolis police officers were not able to get mr. floyd into the car, they themselves are experiencing that surge of adrenaline, a reasonable police officer will be experiencing that surge of adrenaline. and again, balancing all of the evidence against each other, right, let's look at three different angles of the struggle. this is officer kueng's body camera. >> [ inaudible ]. >> get in the squad. >> i'm going down. i'm going down. i'm not going to -- >> heart attack -- >> breathe -- >> get in the car. i can't breathe. >> take a seat. >> please, man. please listen to me. >> you're going to jail. he's under arrest for forgery. >> okay. >> forgery for what? for what? please, man. i can't breathe. >> thank you. thank you. >> step out of the car. >> on the ground. >> under arrest for forgery. forgery for

stiger also pushing back against defense assertions that instead of paying attention to floyd officers were concerned by the threat of onlookers calling them names onlookers upset that floyd was clearly in distress and at the end unconscious, an officer reasonable officer. >> could perceive the words that people are saying and talk that it is being 7 and as a threat or a risk to the officer's safety. a risk possibly, typically trend that when it comes verbal threat in themselves that you can't just you that only justified force. prosecutors on redirect using stiger's testimony took paint derek chauvin's use of force on george floyd. >> has not objectively reasonable clearly in the video you could see that his health was dejeriorating. his breath was getting lower. his tone of voice is getting more. his movements were. we're starting to seize. >> so at that point. as officer on scene. you have a responsibility to realize that ok, something is not right. something's changed drastically from what was occurring earlier. so therefore you have responsibility take some type of action. >> and

. >> the defensive attorney eric nelson continuing to interview jody stiger on the eighth day of the trial of derek chauvin in the death of george floyd on mae judge say they will take a 20 minute break or so so that will be shortly after the noon eastern and we expect them to return. until the due we will show you some of the testimony from day seven, yesterday in minneapolis. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. >> thank you your honor, the state calls nicole kinsey. [inaudible]. >> to swear or affirm the truth and nothing but the truth. [inaudible]. >> if you feel comfortable, we prefer you take your mask off. and before we begin, can you hand me that. [inaudible]. >> if you could begin by giving us your full name and the spelling. nicole m ac k en zip. >> i'm employed by the minneapolis police department pretty about six years. >> what is your current roll there pretty. >> i am a police officer pretty. >> given specific duty pretty. >> i do predict on the medical coordinator for the front desk. >> now before we talk about that, i would like you to share a little about yourself

nelson. >> good morning, sergeant stiger. thank you for being here. enjoy the rain last night? >> yes. >> a little different than california. >> yes, we don't get that much in california. >> right. sergeant, i have a few questions first and foremost about your experience. have you ever previously testified in any court or in any or federal court as an expert on the police use of force? >> no i have not. >> have you ever been qualified by any court as an expert in the use of police force? >> yes. >> where? >> in los angeles during a trial use of force that i was the investigator for. >> is that the only time in that case? >> yes. >> and you are here in your own personal capacity? >> correct. >> you are not here as a representative of either the los angeles police department or officer of inspector general? >> correct. >> the training that you have experienced and that you have conducted, that has all been by the los angeles police department, correct? >> yes. >> so the training that you received to become a police officer, that is primarily conducted b

we will take you live to minneapolis with a testament of jody stiger, lapd use force expert is expected to continue the eighth day of the trial of derek chauvin. >> will do a brief recap to bring us to where we left off yesterday. yesterday you testified about some events that occurred that took place on may 25, 2020, prior to the defendants arrival. and then some events immediately upon his arrival, isn't right? >> yes. >> you testified that mr. floyd reluctance and resistance to get in the squad car and officers efforts to compel them to do so, is that right? >> yes. >> he then discussed how officers holding back out of the squad car onto the street. i believe you indicated mr. floyd went to his knees on the ground, said thank you to the officers, is that right? >> yes. >> it was at that point officers push him flat on the ground into the prone position and you saw mr. floyd kick with one leg while being pushed prone, is that right? >> yes. >> i believe a testament is that a reasonable officer could have interpreted that kick is being active aggression or active resistance? >> yes. >>

stiger testified that he, himself, as a police officer faced real hostile crowd, people throwing rocks and bottles. can you sort of delineate for us, just as a law enforcement officer, you faced crowds, right? can a crowd impact whether or not you're allowed to use deadly force on somebody that you're holding? >> well, it's a good question, joy. thank you for having me. a crowd could only impact that use of deadly force if for some reason that crowd is perceived to be a threat. i will say if you have an issue with people cursing at you and yelling at you, then the police department is no place for you to be employed, because this is something that people do. we have something called the first amendment in this country. this is a country where folks can express themselves and express their thoughts and so forth with government. that's a big difference between perceiving a crowd as a threat, a group of people as a threat. i'll go a step further. that crowd -- that was not a crowd of predominantly african-american people. this argument would not pass the laugh test. we see crowds of peopl

and tiger was ying stiger was ng to say what he did not hear. but in doing so, it lingers. and again, prosecutors have to be very careful about what lingers. you and i and everybody outside of that courtroom are thinking about what is happening. but if you are the jury and that is out there, a 20-minute break and we will get you back to minneapolis as soon as the defense continues, and you know there will be redirect coming with this witness on the stand. thank you both so much. we have the cdc director saying the uk variant, the variant first identified, the variant first identified in the uk is the most dominant strain of covid in the united states. up next, how it could impact another possible surge in cases. aliens are real, alright. there's just too much evidence. kill weeds not the lawn with roundup for lawns products. dignity. this thing you can neither see nor measure... ...but that demands the return of small moments illness attempts to steal. ♪ dignity demands a rapid covid test, ♪ because we all need an answer to move forward. ♪ dignity demands your heart stays c

that was being caused by the body weight could cause positional asphyxia and death. >> woodruff: stigerrefuted claims from chauvin's attorney that the officers at the scene were distracted by angry bystanders. he said from the evidence he'd seen, the onlookers didn't appear to be a "threat" to police. in eastern indonesia, at least 140 people are dead and dozens more are still missing following days of torrential rainfall that triggered landslides in the region. clean up efforts began on lembata island where villagers returned to find their homes damaged and filled with mud. jordan's king abdullah said his country is now stable after a rare public rift with his half- brother prince hamzah. he addressed it for the first time in a statement, saying, "it was the most painful because those who are party to the sedition were from our own home." the prince has denied involvement and is under house arrest. meanwhile, president biden held a call with king abdullah to re- affirm u.s. support. back in this country, the los angeles county sheriff's department said tiger woods was going 40 miles an

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so, at this point -- and we have an expert witness who the state introduced, sergeant stiger who has already performed this exact analysis. it's cumulative and it builds and builds and builds and the very nature of what we sought to prevent. >> who would like to speak for the state? >> i would, your honor. >> your honor, the state strongly opposes defendant's motion to exclude the testimony of expert witness stauten. as we've explained to the court in our memorandum of law, professor stauten comes at the use of force issue in a much different way than the other witnesses who have testified. that he's a nationally recognized expert. he's an academic, and he takes an academic approach. he would not be, pursuant to the court's direction, comment ogg on mpd policies or analyzing those, but rather the national standards and generally accepted police practices. >> this is an important distinction because as the court knows, the defendant is not on trial for violating policies. he's on trial for violating the law. and a department can have a policy that improper, a department can have a tra

. >> reporter: today, an expert on the use of force, sergeant jody stiger of the lapd, testifying derek chauvin used deadly force against george floyd at a time when no force was necessary. prosecutors asking whether floyd posed a threat. >> no, he did not. >> and why not? >> because he was in the prone position, he was handcuffed. he was not attempting to resist. >> reporter: the defense has argued the crowd of bystanders were a threat. >> i did not perceive them as being a threat. >> and why is that? >> because they were merely filming and they were -- most of it was their concern for mr. floyd. >> reporter: chauvin's lawyers returning again and again to floyd's drug use, arguing his opioid addiction led to his death. >> you've seen sort of a white substance forming around mr. floyd's mouth? >> yes. >> that would be consistent in your experience with someone who is possibly using controlled substances? >> correct. >> reporter: the defense playing this body cam video to the chief investigator in the case, james ryerson. listen closely. >> did you hear that? >> yes, i did. >> did it app

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hey sergeant jody stiger, let's talk. that is distracting that officer what he or she is doing. >> yes. it can. >> and officer has to be prepared for the unexpected, reasonable officer. >> yes. we are always it addressing it. >> and i understand what a part of an officer what they have to do is assess the word is that somebody may be saying and comparing it to the tone of how they are saying it. right. >> yes. >> that is what a reasonable officer desperate by sake hello sergeant drone 12 were in a different town say hello jody stiger and they can convey meaning, my tongue can. right predict and if i start to call you a name, that conveys a meaning right. >> yes. >> and it conveys a particular content, grade. >> i would not say an intent. >> is a reasonable officer could perceive that were see that as a threat. >> name-calling, how it is a depends on the officers training and experience. >> okay, but in officer reasonable officer, could perceive the words of people are saying the tone it is being set in a threat or risk to

that was just sergeant stiger testifying there.e of force instructor in the los angeles police department, lapd. we saw him dissect individual frames from police body camera footage between that encounter between chauvin and floyd, trying to add more perspective to what happened that day. let's head back into the courtroom now. >> some additional trial preparation yesterday with the prosecution, right? after your testimony. >> no. we had a brief conversation but no trial prep. >> you and i have never met or spoke, right? >> correct. >> you are aware that prosecutors give summaries of those meetings? >> yes. >> you also testified yesterday that in your role with the los angeles police department and

and as you heard lieutenant stiger the use of force expert state is you use the amount of force necessary. and when that resistance stops of course you stop. what we saw or we all observed rather mr. floyd when he went to the ground, and they had him handcuffed. they had him in a prone position. they were on top of him. it just was not necessary any longer to treat him the way in which they did. you know, it's very important to remember and we hear a lot about this, and it is such an important piece here, don, is that once a person that you arrest is in your custody you're solely responsible for them. and you're responsible for their care during the time that you have them under arrest. and i think what we saw on may 25th was something that certainly did not demonstrate taking responsibility for another human being. >> but the defense is trying to argue that floyd still could have been a threat. listen to this, cedric. >> a person who's in handcuffs can continue to be a threat, agreed? >> yes. >> they can kick you. >> correct. >> they could bite you. >> correct. >> they could thrash and g

forget stiger who came in from l.a. you had the chief and lieutenant zimmerman, the supervisory sergeant playinger in addition to other who said he violated the standard in some form or another. on causation, counselor, there are two very brief audio clips that i want to run. first there was the pulmonology, tobin. bottom line is here is why he said george floyd died. let's listen. >> the cause of death is a low level of oxygen that caused the brain damage and caused the heart to stop. >> low level of oxygen, asphyxia by another name. then medical examiner baker yesterday who was the only one who performed the autopsy. in cross-examination here was the change by nelson. >> you and i just visited from strangulation which is pressure from the front of the neck to the back of the neck and that is not something i think we see as medical goers pressure to the back of the neck explaining strangulation. >> or asphyxiation? >> correct. >> reporter: he doesn't see asphyxiation but the pulmonologist did tobin. will this get lost

stiger talked about being on a panel. they have five officers to assess whether use of force is reasonable. sometimes it's 1-5, sometimes it's 2-3, sometimes it's 5-0 because the use of force is not an easy thing to consider. i'm sorry, i know i'm long-winded. there are a couple other things i need to talk about very briefly. i promise i'll be as brief as i can before i get to the cause of death. first is that concept of intent. as the state showed you, with respect to counts 1 and 2, you have to address mr. chauvin's intent. pay careful attention again to the instructions. words have meaning. intentionally or intentional means that the defendant either has the purpose to do the thing or cause the results specified or believes that the act, if successful, will cause the result. in addition, the defendant must have knowledge of those facts that are necessary to make his conduct criminal and that are set forth after the word "intentionally," "intentional." you'll see a very similar instruction twice. intent. did officer cha

earlier sergeant stiger who was an outside expert brought in by the prosecution spent a lot of time on the stand and i would like to start with him, if we could, laura. when we look back at what we learned this morning, the defense spent a lot of time with him, and i notice you tweeted one of the things the day efens was doing is drilling down more with respect to the witness. >> the prosecutors and defense counsel are aware people will remember the first thing they heard and the last thing they heard, and a lot of times things get buried in the middle. even though you have had thoughtful and compelling testimony from a sergeant and lieutenant, and the emotional witnesses we saw last week, and the most recent one they are remembering right now is the use of force expert. they will drill down all the things they were unable to talk about with the other witnesses, because a lot of them were untouchable and unflappable in the statement saying this is not a reasonable use of force case and this person was a paid expert, and you have an outside person and you can drill down because they are

. >> stiger has trained 3,000 police officers in use of force tactics. >> they should have a slowdownstop their force. >> stiger's testimony followed half a dozen minneapolis police officers including lieutenant johnny mercil, the department's own use of force instructor. chauvin attended his class in 2014. >> is this an mpd-trained neck restraint? >> no, sir. >> has it ever been? >> not -- neck restraint? no, sir. >> officer nicole mackenzie, the medical coordinator for the minneapolis police department was asked about this moment. >> i can't breathe! >> you're talking fine. >> just because they're speaking doesn't mean they're breathing adequately. >> the defense asked mackenzie if the crowd could have distracted chauvin, a central point in their case. >> it is very difficult to focus that patient while there are other things around you. if you don't feel safe around you. >> ben crump, one of the floyd family attorneys said he has never seen so many officers testify against another. >> it is our hope that that will become the norm when police see things that are wrong or violate pol

sergeant jody stiger told prosecutors that restraint was excessive. >> he was not attempting to resistd the pressure that was being caused by the body weight could cause death. stephanie: he also refuted claims from derek chauvin's attorney that officers at the scene were distracted by angry bystanders. he said from the evidence he had seen that onlookers did not appear to be a threat to police. overseas in eastern indonesia, at least 140 people are dead and dozens more still missing following days of torrential rainfall that triggered landslides in the region. cleanup efforts began on an island where villagers returned to find their homes damaged and filled with mud. jordin's king said his country is now stable after a rare public rift with his half other. he addressed it for the first time in a statement saying it was the most painful because those who are party to the sedition were from our own home. the prince has denied involvement and is under house arrest. meanwhile, president biden held a call with king abdullah to reaffirm u.s. support. the biden administration announced it is

here's what lapd sergeant jody stiger had to say about the use of handcuffs. were not double locked. double locked meaning that they were not -- they could continue to ratchet tighter as the person moved. >> were you able to hear what instances what you think what appeared to be rancheting from the body worn cameras? >> yes. >> from what i understand, your testimony you would inflict pain for the purpose of having the subject obey your command? >> yes. comply. >> what if there is no opportunity for compliance? >> then at that point it's just pain. >> melissa, how important is chauvin's motive for harming george floyd? >> i think this say big part of the prosecution's case, and it is, perhaps, i think an unfortunate one to some degree because as the clip that you played entering into the segment shows, we could be having a much larger conversation through this trial about the nature of policing in this country and whether policing and police tactics and procedures are actually necessary given what they are doing in the field, but it seems that the prosecution h

the question first came up during the defense's cross examination of los angeles pd sergeant jody stiger then brought up again when minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension agent james reyerson took the stand ask you, sir, to listen to mister floyd's. did you hear that? yes, few that mister fine said i too many drugs the prosecution redirecting her hand listen to that piece of audio and trying figure out report is saying. >> and i know. >> so that was an exercise mister nelson asked you to do for the first time sitting there. >> yes, the prosecution then played a longer clip of the video having heard in context. i want to tell. what mister for the same. yes, i believe mister for saying i do drugs. >> a different than what you are asked about. we saw. >> that was 40 reporting hearing. the often emotional testimony in trial can be difficult. we've posted links to helpful resources on our website. kron 4 dot com. >> 5.51. and now to the latest on the effort to recall governor newsome within the next few weeks. the secretary of state is expected to announce whether the supporters have gathe

los angeles police sergeant jody stiger was called as an expert witness for the prosecution. >> mr. floyd was not resisting. he was in the prone position and he was handcuffed. he was not attempting to evade. he was not attempting to resist. and the pressure that was being caused the body weight to cause a 60 of which could cause death. amy: president trump's campaign and the republican national committee issued more than half a million refunds to online donors worth over $64 million in the final months of the 2020 campaign after charging recurring payments to people who had made one-time donations. "the new york times" reports one 63-year-old trump supporter battling cancer had $500 deducted from his bank account every week until his bank account had been depleted and frozen after he failed to opt-out of a fine-print disclaimer. donors who tried to cancel recurring payments encountered a message reading -- "we need to know we haven't lost you to the radical left. if you uncheck this box, we'll have to tell trump you're a defector and sided with the dems." in georgia, the fulton cou

amount of restraint and we heard time and time again from various experts including even sergeant jody stiger trial, which is derek chauvin. if he is found guilty, he will be the person found guilty not the entire police department bg found guilty. >> let's pause there, everyone. when we come back, the prosecution is likely to rest his case next week, and stay with us after the week, richard engel hosts on assignment "our house." it's a special look at the capitol insurrection. that's next on msnbc. and eatinge till you find the perfect slice... even if everyone asks you... another burger truck? don't listen to them! that means cooking day and night until you get... [ ding ] you got paid! that means adding people to the payroll. hi mom. that means... best burger ever. intuit quickbooks helps small businesses be more successful with payments, payroll, banking and live bookkeeping. how great is it that we get to tell everybody how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? i mean it... uh-oh, sorry... oh... what? i'm an emu! no, buddy! only pay for what you

we expect to hear more from los angeles police sergeant and use of force expert jodi stiger. >> he joinsicers who have testified, really in effect, against chauvin at the use of force against george floyd was excessive. folks who serve alongside him in uniform. cnn's josh campbell joins us from outside the courtroom in minne minneapolis. that officer said the use of force should have stopped when floyd stopped resisting. officers are trained when the threat is removed, you stop applying that force. what more do we expect to hear today? >> jim, there's a big mystery waiting to be resolved which we expect to hear more in the opening hours of today's testimony. yesterday court ended abruptly during the questioning of this expert witness called by the prosecution, an officer from the los angeles police department. now the attorneys went into what's called a sidebar where they have a discussion and then the judge immediately adjourned. we expect, based on what we've seen before, that it's likely that the defense had objected to this witness' knowledge, this participation here in this trial bu

. >> your honor, exhibit 255, we indicate that it was offered and received during sergeant stiger's testimony but there is question whether that was done. we formally offer 255 at this time. >> mr. nelson? >> 155. >> 255. and what's the description of that again, mr. frank? >> it is a screen shot from kueng's body worn camera. >> that's one i don't have a copy of. >> 255? i don't have a copy of that one, counsel. >> 255? >> and it was at what time? >> 8:19.35. >> so 20:19.35? >> correct. >> you have that it was offered and received but the court doesn't? >> correct. >> no objection. >> 255 is received if it was not before. >> your honor, exhibit 122, which our records identify as the mpd crisis intervention training powerpoint. we believe was referenced. may not have been formally offered, but we'd offer it at this time. >> may i have a moment to chat? >> sure. >> and the number again, mr. frank. >> upon further review, we would withdraw exhibit 122. >> all right. 122 is withdrawn. >> your honor, then just for clarification of the record. if it's necessary, exhibits 624 and 628 were just only

sergeant stiger, expert witness, los angeles police department, trained thousands of police officers. he looked at this. this is objectively unreasonable force. professor stostoughton. law school professor. this use of force was disproportionate and violates national standards. the experts agree because the force has to be reasonable when it starts, it has to be reasonable when with it ends and what is happening? s if you look at the bottom, george floyd is handcuffed and on the ground, what is he saying? he's saying, i can't breathe, 27 times within the first four minutes and 45 seconds of this encounter. he's saying that. and the defendant continues to kneel on his back and neck, continue the dangerous restraint. george floyd says, into the restraint at 8:22.24 my stomach hurts, my neck hurts, everything hurts. the defendant heard that. he heard those words. was george floyd resisting when he was trying to breathe? no. no. and the defendant heard it and he acknowledged it and all he did was mock him. uh-huh. it takes a lot of oxygen to complain. that's what he said. it takes a lot o

those are our trainers and then we go into more of a practitioner level expert, jody stiger and then at some later time the academic experts will testify but not immediately. >> miming concert obvious is a medical training they received. so again what mr. chauvin would know what is training come when his expense after that date all relevant. when was taken into the opinions how many use of force opinions do we have? it is cumulative possible already, but i think as you both go through each of those is got to talking about training the defendant received, not just here's the trainings we had. because if he didn't take the training, it doesn't go to intent or knowledge. >> understood, your honor. the workforce records specify what in-service training the defendant has attended, and then we the curriculum, the material that was presented during those training blocks. >> crisis intervention trend seems to be relevant to this case. use of force training is relevant to this case. medical training is relevant to this case. will all those summaries of the trench the defendant received accord

jody stiger was asked about. [inaudible]. in 19 i can't breathe. >> get on the sidewalk place predict. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. [inaudible]. please. i can't breathe. >> the record should reflect we played the quote that you are asked about earlier at the 202020 and one and having parted and contacts were you able to tell mr. george floyd is saying pretty. >> i believe that he said i ain't doing the drugs pretty. >> that was all different than what you are asked about an portion of the video pretty. >> yes, sir. >> to clarify what you did earlier and through that i had inverted a couple of exhibit numbers correct predict analysis figured that out printed exhibits 53 and 54. they're both parts of the dragon video and you have seen those they are in fact that was obtained from the dragon one correct predict. >> correct. >> and also have a 55 portion of the dragon video as well. >> yes. >> what we initially offered it as exhibit 54 should actually be exhibit 53 and we will offer exhibits 53 - 54 and picked five predict. >> and o

law enforcement officials testified against chauvin this week including use of force expert jody stigerpd saying he should have reduced restraint and given medical aid once floyd was cuffed on the ground. >> he was not attempting to assault the officers, kick, punch or anything of that nature. >> reporter: the minneapolis police chief also condemning his actions. >> it is not part of our training, and it is certainly not part of our ethics or our values. >> reporter: the defense arguing the growing crowd of bystanders distracted officers, pressing officer nicole mckenzie on the issue. >> have you ever had to perform emergency services in a -- not even a hostile crowd, just a loud excited crowd? >> yes. >> is that in your experience more or less difficult? >> it's incredibly difficult. >> reporter: prosecutors only have to show that chauvin's actions were a substantial causal factor, even if other issues contributed to floyd's death according to minnesota guidelines. and friday was the first time we saw someone sitting behind chauvin in court to show support. his attorneys will soon get

the question first came up during the defense's cross examination of los angeles pd sergeant jody stigerhen brought up again when minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension agent james reyerson took the stand ask you, sir, to listen to mister floyd's. did you hear that? yes, the few that mr floyd said i too, many drugs the prosecution redirecting her hand. and listen to that piece of audio and trying figure what you're saying. >> and i know. >> so that was an exercise mister nelson asked for the first time sitting there. yes, the prosecution then played a longer clip of the video having heard in context. >> i want to tell. what mister for the same. yes, i believe mister for saying i do drugs. little different than what you are asked about. we saw. >> that was, you know, forte reporting hearing the often emotional testimony can be a little difficult and so we've posted some links that might be helpful to you on our website. some resources that you can avail yourself to the kron 4 dot com. >> some 49 is a time in the next few weeks of secretary of state is expected to announce to the recall

sergeant stiger, expert witness, los angeles police department. he's trained thousands of police officers. he looked at this. this is objectively unreasonable force. professor stoughton, former police officer, university of south carolina law school professor. this use of force was unreasonable, it was disproportionate and it violates national standards. the experts agree because the force has to be reasonable when it starts. it has to be reasonable when it ends and what is happening? if you look at the bottom and george floyd is handcuffed and on the ground. what is he saying? he's saying i can't breathe 27 times within the first 4:45 of this encounter, he's saying that and the defendant continues to kneel on his back and neck. continued the dangerous restraint. george floyd says into the restraint at 8:22:24. "my stomach hurts. my neck hurts. everything hurts." was george floyd resisting when he was trying to breathe? no. the defendant acknowledged it and all he did was mock him. uh-huh. it takes a lot of oxygen to complain. that's when he said.

restraint with the person underneath them not moving, not breathing, and then of course, you had sergeant stiger expert, and he said it was unreasonable force. i agree with dan here that with the captain and the chief arradondo, there's no question he underscored everything by saying, you have a duty of care here, and in no way, shape, or form did what derek chauvin do, was showing that he cared about the person who was in his custody. >> pierre, the defense is at a tough road here. they have tried to make an issue of the crowd's watching as the arrest unfolded. >> they have indeed, george. they basically said that because the crowd was getting rowdy, that the officers may have been distracted, but a lot of civil rights officials and african-americans are saying that that's just not going to cut it, that at the end of the day, these people were watching someone die before their very eyes and they wanted the police to stop, cease and desist. so law enforcement officials are saying that this just doesn't cut it, george. >> dan abrams, the defense is likely to start this week. all they need to do i