joining us for that conversation, a fellow at the middle east program with the stimpson certainty.w york. executive director for the american iranian council and also from our d.c. studio, matthew, resident fellow at the american enterprise institute. he was also a senior expert for iran at the u.s. central command. welcome, everybody to the program. let me start with you, it seems like every 10 to 14 days you'll sigh a story in the -- you'll see a story in the newspaper saying there has been sudden, encouraging movement in the talks over iran's nuclear program. they are getting close to ideal. and then somebody on one sides of the other says, oh, no, we are not really that close. what's going on. >> well, the nuclear negotiations have been going on for 10 years. and for the first time actually last year around the same time knew, the interim deal was signed which put the restrictions on iran's nuclear program and in return, yo you k, there was some laxing of sanks and also some revenue opened up from frozen accounts for revenue revenue's receiving oil revenue. however, as you ment