you hear a lot of people in the next few days talking about stockholm on television. stockholm syndrome being the phenomenon when somebody starts to identify with and have an he fin ti for their captors. that's one possible explanation. i can tell you, campbell, that is very, very, very rare. elizabeth smart, patty hufrt are the cases talked about the most in the case of stockholm syndrome. i think what is more likely is something called learned helplessness or accommodation. somebody does eventually give up all hope of getting out of the situation to the point that they just sort of make the best of it. and you got to remember duress also. she wasn't with these folks very long, campbell before she was pregnant haand had a child. she didn't have just herself to think b she had kids to think about for most of this time. >> pat, the kidnapper, from what we know, wasn't acting alone. he did it with his wife. how do you explain what was going on in their minds? >> well, there is always a little sick spouse to go along with these situations. we look at the austrian guy. he

alyssa and worked at their printing business and experts say she may have developed shock -- stop stockholm syndrome. >>> and firefighters are struggling to control wildfires in california. thousands of homes are threatened and thousands are also evacuating. >> reporter: massive wildfires are devoiring california from los angeles to sacramento and the largest is close anything on a center for the l.a. a area and threatening 20 tv centers and anoas strongmy sent -- astronomy center and flames and homes. >> reporter: we have flames on top of mount wilson. >> reporter: two firefighters died a when their vehicle went

. >> stockholm syndrome is a very interesting phenomenon in which the person who is abducted or taken hostage over time becomes very friendly, develops an emotional bond with their captor. >> reporter: 11-year-old shaun hornbeck was held 4 1/2 years, and even though shaun was allowed to leave his captors' home and even make friends, he never ran. >> thruere was aunt day i didn' think he was going to kill me. >> reporter: why didn't they run? >> it's a way to deal with the stress of having your life at risk. this person becomes emotionally bonded to their abductor and develops a long relationship, and once they are freed, it becomes a long process of healing. >> this horrific story brings to mind the 2002 an dukds of elizabeth smart who returned home to her family after nine months.

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so i resent very much that people say it's the stockholm syndrome. it is a matter of survival. when you've been abducted, you know what they're capable of doing. you know, when you're assaulted, when you're molested, there is, you know, no question that this person is capable of doing many things. that does not mean that they will connect with this person and bond with them. >> but if i may just say that her stepfather told me this morning that jaycee feels incredibly guilty because she did bond wither captor, i'm wondering if that's perhaps because she had two children with him. >> you know, i'm sure that she cared very much. to me that even complicates it more because certainly she had concern for her children. heaven only knows what they all went through. i still don't agree that, you know, the stockholm syndrome answers that question. >> would elizabeth be willing to -- would she like to meet with jaycee? >> you know, i'm sure she would be happy to talk with her about moving forward with her life, that, you know, this is -- this is a segment, you know, that she needs to som

i developed the financial markets and then the stockholm syndrome hit me. a dear friend in graduate school always urged me to fulfill my financial skills for the environment, and i just love it. >> are we doing enough do you think to lower carbon emissions? >> i think that the bill will get us in the right direction. i worry that there is not enough clean air, not enough water in the united states. >> sure. >> we take a look at things that we generally thought were free. once you put a price on carbon, you are going to get the modifying the microseed pollutants and get biodiesel and you're going to get a whole new industry that will both generate jobs for america and make us energy independent. that is what a price will do for us. >> yeah, that's a really great point. i'm so glad you made it. richard, great to have you on the program. >> pleasure to be here. >> thank you. richard sandor. >>> up next on the "wall street journal report," your credit score and what you should know about the numbers that signal your financial health and how to keep them in good

as you'll recall that was in 1973, a bank robbery in stockholm, sweden, where the hostages in that caset they eventually helped in their court defense and even had love affairs with them and realize that took place over a very short period of time. so what happens in a long period of time is you start to identify with your captor. you say, hey, if he doesn't succeed i'm going to die. your kidnapper, he threatens you, he threatens your family, and eventually this terrible bond, this survival bond starts to take place between you and the captor. this, now, she's going to have feelings of guilt and responsibility. she and her two daughters ages 11 and 15, who have basically never seen the outside world, are going to need a lot of help. >> clint, what about this wife here? she is accused of knowing about it. what kind of women or anyone, individuals who help in this? i know in the austrian case it was suspected his wife had helped. there was never proof. but this woman is behind bars and may have helped in all of this. >> yeah, what we're probably going to hear is that she was an abused spo

. >> you wonder about the stockholm syndrome and identifying with the captor. >>> 6:26, friday morning. >> continuing coverage of the death of senator edward kennedy. we will see what effect his death will have on the fight for health care reform. >> records are missing for the water main break on broker road. >> we are live in the weather center and keeping an eye on a tropical storm danny and on our weekend >> live and in hd, this is "good morning washington," on your side. >>> and good morning, washington. welcome back. 6:30 is your time. thank you for joining us. i'm alison starling. >> and i'm doug mckelway. your traffic and weather together every 10 minutes. we are expecting that change over, going into the fall. >> we have temperatures in the 70's and 60's. we will be in the 80's today. early next week, 70's. >> what is the deal with danny? >> it will work its way up the coastline but it will only fectaftl the beaches. in. rain isom cdo 70's in the local areas. we will shoot for low 80's with some on and off hefty rain storms. they are looking across the area. happy birthday, mo

alyssa and worked at their printing business and experts say she may have developed shock -- stop stockholm syndrome. >>> and firefighters are struggling to control wildfires in california. thousands of homes are threatened and thousands are also evacuating. >> reporter: massive wildfires are devoiring california from los angeles to sacramento and the largest is close anything on a center for the l.a. a area and threatening 20 tv centers and anoas strongmy sent -- astronomy center and flames and homes. >> reporter: we have flames on top of mount wilson. >> reporter: two firefighters died a when their vehicle went off of the side of the road. there -- the worst part is the waiting part. >> reporter: the landscape is challenging for firefighters. in these rugged foothills. some of the brush is burning for the first time in 60 years. it's your stuff. your you don't want to leave it. >> reporter: in 5:00ton, she wanted to stimaround to protackifier -- protect her property and changed her mind. >> we jumped in the tahoe and ran, literally, we honestly ran for our lives and i would not advise sta

. >> and is that the same thing that we're seeing about the stockholm syndrome. >> that's what it is. same syndrome where, when you're -- it's adaptive to shutdown and go along with what's expected of you. what happens is you can't get out of it to survive and shutdown. you stay in the psychological rut and that's where you proceed. especially someone as young as she was. >> and we see instances of captives running, is that a personality trait. >> well, it can be different. and first of all, the age of the person, the sort of psychological temperment of the person. it can be the perception of danger. and you'll see people reacting differently. and some recognize and this is the chance to get out. and in a situation where you have a young woman and adults overpowering her, that's not surprising. >> and she's older and she mothers the two children, this is whole different level she's dealinwith and the reports are that the kids are fathered by the man and they wept when they saw him taken away. >> well, that's not surprising, this is the new normal for them. you'll see in victim of the

this started out in stockholm in bank robbery in 91 when the people who were -- captured the bank robbers then had sex with them and while they were in captivity and spoke out very highly about them and said a deep psychiatric problem. >> let me talk to sean from nashville. >> my question is this, how far did this suspect live from the actual abduction? god bless you and your family? >> 171 miles. >> he made is 171 miles with the child in the car. >> do you know if they ever set up a roadblock? >> i was told they didn't. the funny part was when i called police and did all of this they obviously waited until the bus she was supposed to be done got to school. got my wife from work. my kid is not -- they count the kid to make sure she wasn't there. >> same thing in 1997 the same community had raped and kidnapped a woman was given 50 years in jail and wound up getting after 10. >> this is something that needs to stop the revolving door for predators who pray on victims and children. they should go to jail for life. >> park ten seconds. >> stop putting statutory rapists under gps and start loo

some people talk about stockholm syndrome.n the cops first stop church. she did not immediately identify herself. nor did jaycee dugard. the fact that the captives begin to identify with the captors, that is a psychological given. gretchen: especially in this case. now she is the mother of the sex offender's two children. >> i think that is the point. when people talk about stockholm syndrome, elizabeth had to write in this diary every night. at the bottom, she wrote in french, i hit them and i love my parents. i do not believe that she ever to go into the stockholm syndrome. when you think of yourself being at risk, but your two children, that would make to comply that much more. brian: we know that this girl was held from the age of 11 to 29. she has an 11th-year old and 15- year-old pierre ye. phillip garrido was handed out religious pamphlets at the university of berkeley. he was jailed in 1971 for kidnapping someone. he blocked in with his wife and all three of them and this whole thing happened. how could they not have k

it is a very nice experience being in stockholm sweden. it is not really tourist season. my friend and colleague were walking down the street and we would run into local people from stockholm and we would -- they would find that we were americans and they would ask is what brings them -- brings us to stockholm. it is a very interesting experience. so, without further ado, let me bring up my colleague, john mather. [applause] >> david, thank you for that lovely introduction. i remember seeing my ethics instructions that said it was all right to win a nobel prize. anyway, it did happen. i need to take a few seconds to set up this computer connection, but that usually works. anyway, i am going to concentrate -- maybe you heard i was going to talk about this. . . something appearing on the screen, i hope. something is happening. ta-da. we have to make sure that we get the system set up correctly, first. is that good? that is not so good. tweaking get better pictures, right? let's try that. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2009] okay, i think we're ready to g

it's too early i think for people in the media to be diagnosing the stockholm syndrome. that's possibly that she's developed an an finity for them and that the kids have, too, but what's more likely is that they just resign themselves to the fact that they were never going to get out of this thing and just tried to make the best of it, which is a different thing from liking the cap tore. >> brian russell, go appreciate your insight this morning. >> thanks. >>> and can go up, we'll talk more about this with jaycee's stepfather who says that the girls have psychologists with them around the clock. he'll be here in the studio. we'll also speak with a forger teacher who says that neither she nor any of jaycee's former classmates ever gave up hope. >> russ mitchell is off this morning. jeff glor is at the news desk. good morning. >>> good morning, everyone. georgia police investigation xwatsing a mass killing, still have no suspects in the deaths of eight people. the victims were killed saturday in a mobile home about 70 miles south 6 savannah. list have are l. not say how th

have joyed seeing my more matu years and me successes and-- parents like seeing their kids go to stockholm. >> ros exactly. ( laught ) >> or woing in goverent. >> rose: that's my pnt, make a nobel speech. >> or running cance ceers or other things thewould have thought useful. >> rose: the point is they would have been proud. >> exactly. they believein and tryo ach rlected in the career you ha which has spaed heal and public issues as well there is also th-- this book is t extension of a series of lekt-- lectures you ga, lectes on one? >> jean strauss who runs the common center for the humanities at the new york public libraries asked me do three ltures called the norton lectures. i ively accepted and when re the fine print i realized i had signed on to turn the ree lectures into a ok. initiay i was intereed in-- actually at her instiitatn-- of talking aut the two cultures, the concept snow inoduced just over 50ears ag in which he pointed out there was a gulf beten the culture of the humanities d the culture ofcience that these ctures should be called upon to solve some of the problems in t

the couple with the best time won a trick to stockholm, sweden. >> that would be a great way to figure how to marry someone. >> maybe we can have the finnish champian a iaia iaion and the l champion face-off. >>> they're more familiar with snoop dogg and aerosmith, but geffen records has a new unlikely audience. that would be the pope. they say they will release a cd featuring pope benedict's voice synced with the royal philharmonic orchestra. >> it was incredible to see and very privileged to be allowed in to hearing that, and as we listened to the choir, we started to notice there was another voice that was coming through which is obviously pope benedict, and it became apparent this could be a really remarkable record. >> the cd featuring the pope is due out november 30th. profits will go toward helping under privileged children and a great christmas gift. >> if the pope can carry a tune, terrific. as for putin, he's on your mind i know, tamron, it's not easy being vladimir putin. when he was president his schedule was packed with jailing oil tycoons and crushing his country's indepe

, found out we were americans, say what brings you to stockholm at this time of year?be seriously looked at them and said the nobel prize. and interesting experience for that. without further ado, let me bring up my colleague and distinguished scientists, no prize winner john mather. [applause] >> thank you for that lovely introduction. i remember seeing my construction every year saying it is all right to win the nobel prize, that is very nice but not going to happen. anyway, it did happen. it will take a few seconds to set up this computer connection here but it usually works. i am going to concentrate, you may have heard that i was going to talk about the cosmic back -- cosmic microwave background. i will thought you would want to think more about planets, life and a search for planets around other stars as well as the new telescope that we are working on, the james webb space telescope. okay, the computer is coming alive. thisakes a moment to the sequence of events here. something appearing on the screen, i hope. something is happening. ta-d ta-dum! we have to make

part of the problem is you get the stockholm syndrome and all of a sudden you become negotiators for the sake of negotiations and a result no matter what that result is. so far that hasn't happened. look, i think over the august recess, all of us can come home, have town hall meetings, discuss with our constituents and hopefully come back and work more closely together. but there still is these irreconcilable differences that i mentioned before. but, yes, i think the pressures are very intense in both direction. both from people who do not want an agreement, at least the kind that's being considered, and that -- i've been in these negotiations. there's enormous pressure to come out with a result. >> well, lets follow up on that very point. because right now in the house, certainly, and to most in the senate, they say it's not a truly bipartisan process even though a handful of your colleagues are in that role. in the past bills like mccain-feingold, is there a role for john mccain, somebody who the american people trust on a lot of these issues when it comes to spending and the role

it's a little variant of something called the stockholm syndrome.your kidnappers. in many ways, you become attached to them. >> what about the legal case here? she's going to be the backbone of the prosecution's argument against phillip and nancy garrido. will investigators start interviewing her right away? will they give you some time to reintegrate in her old life before they start talking to her? how do you think that will go in your experience? >> they began interviewing her yesterday when she was seen with the parole officer and told police who she was. but they're not going to go in gang busters, they shouldn't. she'll put up her defenses, a wall, a psychological wall. they're going to have to take some time with her. the individuals who kidnapped her seemed to have become a little fanatic in how they're trying to present themselves. so this will be a very interesting case. >> we've been playing a little piece of that interview that our affiliate kcra did with phillip garrido. let's get a little bit and get your analysis. this is him talking

keith ablow to talk about stockholm syndrome and why they wouldn't try to escape.hat's a an aged photo we don't know what she looks like. >> and the suspect, the stepdad, he says the suspect's father, he says his son is absolutely crazy, take a listen to this. >> it's going to take years for something so sensitive. i asked my wife how she's doing ttaking it minute by minute. people don't realize you can't change in years, it's been 18 years, the girl has never been to a doctor or running around and stuff, but they're not educated. >> that was carl, jaycee's st stepfather. the one who witnessed her being abducted 18 years ago. he told police that a woman pulled her into the car and police calls suspected him. >> yeah, he was a long time suspect in this thing. and now, they were talking about the father of phil garrido who gave some insight this weekend into what went on in the mind of his son, phillip da garrido, his father. >> he was crazy, out of his head, he was on lsd and he had a serious motorcycle wreck and hit his head, he was still a young teenager, he wasn'

. >> it is the catholic stockholm syndrome case. you remember sean hornbeecck.race: that is right. per member, these are kids. she does not know any other life after a while. >> sean actually came in contact with police twice and then not even identify himself. trace: we know the parole officer for garrido was on a property on a few occasions. sheriff's deputies were there after getting a complaint called but nobody ever stepped in the backyard to see this tent city? >> the system let this girl down. an investigation really needs to begin there. we cannot let this happen again. let us not forget the casey anthony case. trace: to not let it happen again, you have to realize that these sex offenders are spending an average 56 months in prison and they are more likely to react and compared -- reoffend compared to regular criminals. >> he should never have been let out. this system allows him to live up there with his record? this is atrocious. it should have never happened. trace: the story will go on from here. this thing is getting more and more complex. >> execu

elizabeth smart, she got so totally inculcated with the bizarre religious fanaticism of her captor, the stockholmwhen the victim is only 11 when you begin, and he starts having sex with her shortly thereafter, she has a child by him at 14, and another later -- the child was so brainwashed by the perpetrator, that is another crime to me. the fact that he destroyed her free will, this awful person. jane: now, they will try to attend some sort of recovery with the family. they say her daughters will stay with her. jon: those girls, 14 and 11, never been to school and never seen a doctor. unbelievable. jane: thank you. jon: be sure to watch "geraldo at large" and be sure to check out his new book. thanks. jane: really a sea of sadness we are watching at the jfk library in boston. we have live pictures we have been watching. thousands of people have been lining up to remember senator kennedy and his political dynasty that he was part of. one of the most effective legislators in the nation's history, that coming from both sides of the aisle. who will be the next liberal line? is pain, you could end up

. >> the most expensive public transport is in stockholm. they measured this, this is interesting.to buy a big mac based on the cost of living. the least work for a big mac is in chicago and tokyo and in toronto. the most work is in nairobi, kenya. i wonder how many big macs they have. it all comes down to real estate, doesn't it? >> it always does. you look at rental rates? new york and they are always high. my first apartment was out of control. rentals are coming down a little bit thanks to the housing. we see so many more properties on the market. condos and condo conversions that were overbuilt in the housing boom. you are beginning to see more competition and we saw a story about what the rental agents are willing to give now. willing to lower prices without asking. i'm not saying they are coming down to normal, but there is good news in the manhattan market on rentals. >> we should point out that $3,100 a month is average for one bedroom. that's 650 square feet. >> you open the door and you think it's a closet, but it's the kitchen. >> or the bedroom. >> second most expensiv

it's a little variant of what we call the stockholm syndrome, when you become identified with your kidnappers and in many ways you become attached to them. >> reporter: reintegrating with her biological family will have its own serious challenges. one clinical psychologist says her family will likely become very distressed if she starts revealing any physical or emotional abuse, and that's just the beginning. >> they may be upset that she may not be moving quickly enough emotionally to integrate herself back into the family. she may feel that they're strangers and may look at her as being somewhat of a stranger. >> reporter: dugard's parents will have to acclimate to grandchildren, girls 11 and 15 years old, allegedly the offspring of jaycee dugard and suspect phillip garrido. authorities say the girls have never been to school or the doctor and in a jail how else interview garrido, a registered sex offender, said this. one expert says those children, because of their ages, may still have an easier time acclimating to normal settings than jaycee dugard will. >> this is a woman now who will ha

we know it as stockholm syndrome and this is who she was relying on for food, for sustanence.g to see the story she has to tell. anthony. >> thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> thank you. >> you've got along with alisyn when you worked with her here? >> she was-- >> the best. >> i can't say anymore. didn't say anything-- >> self-incrimination. >> and okay,'s got to go. >> all right. show him where to go. >> there you go. >> bye. >> bye. >> senator ted kennedy will be laid to rest later today next to his brothers at arlington national cemetery and there you see the eternal flame that was lighted so many years ago and last night, some of teddy kennedy's closest friends, colleagues, families all gathered to pay tribute to the man known as capitol hill's liberal lion. fox's caroline shively is live in washington with more. and caroline, i see behind you the capital and very briefly today, ted kennedy's motorcade will stop there at the senate. >> you're exactly right. after the funeral this morning in the boston area, then he will come to andrews air force base, and go by the s

often a result of something referred to as stockholm syndrome where basically once the person has beene found they can feel very confused about it and very guilty about it. >> she was just 11 years old when she was captured and held really in captivity from what we're learning. because of the lack of interaction with people, her mind capacity, could it be at that age, age 11, could we be dealing with that in terms of her integrating into the world. >> i think the lack of education and lack of exposure to current culture, to any events of the last many, many years will make her mindset be in a very different place. will it be an 11-year-old, no? because development does continue, so it won't be like she is halted there at age 11. but it will not be like your average 29-year-old. so i think it remains to be seen, you know. is she able to read or write or, you know, perform any sort of math or understand money, understand news. i think that remains to be seen. >> let's talk about the suspect, the sex offender here, and what the profile of this guy is. so, of course, police can learn from

ball with a wet towel and madden says i don't know why he's doing that, i think that he is just stockholm donner. [laughter] so that is what i thought about that. skill stock on dom. so this architecture i am proposing resembles this evolutionary study that they did. basically use an electric tug for anything that isn't essential cargo. take it out there first, taken the potential for using wheelan garrard resources that could be a big thing if you ought to make oxygen on the moon and use that supplement and you certainly would use marcian and resources and phobos as well as martian surface resources and phobos enters and because it makes an interesting mode in the martian orbit. definitely want to update the cargo tug design for modern power and propulsion technology and i would consider solar electric variant of the cargo tug for cargo in space simply because we've got the technology to do it. you have got plenty of power available and you don't get into the issue of nuclear operation and a corvette. but you are going to hear later on when a nuclear advocate i know people are afraid of