there's no martin without ella baker, without stokley carmichael, without so many of the -- diane mark, we can go on -- diane nash, we can go on and on. >> talk about the santa clausification with respect to african-americans. because i think part of what you're describing is a kind of historical amnesia for the fact that dr. king was not always well loved within the black community. and you cite a pretty remarkel -- remarkable poll from late in his life that says 55% of african-americans did not support dr. king on vietnam and ending poverty. and i think it was the ending poverty that caught me off guard. >> yes, yes. no, it's true, and it's very sad. you've got 72% of americans across the board, all color, and 55% of black people disapproving of martin. you remember what whitney young said to brother martin in terms of you're setting back the black freedom movement, and he said oh, what you said won't get you a foothold in the kingdom of truth. typical intra-struggle against black, within black leadership over where to go. see martin was saying corporations are not going to dictate w