and julie said we're going to hear stokley carmichael speak. so i pretty much did what julie said in those days because it was always fun. and i went to south park and watt and had not really knew who stokley carmichael was but had gotten an inkling and the percolation, you couldn't help at 19, mid 1960's, you couldn't stand on the sidelines without being affected by what was going on in the black power movement and the growing latino brown power movement, what was going on in the vietnam war, what was going on in the women's movement. there was so much political movement you couldn't help but feel the bubble common sense all of the activity. so i went to hear stokley carmichael speak, one of the new non-blacks in the audience. i knew by that time as well as i could dance and i could dance, let me tell you. that i wasn't black. i figured that out. i wanted to be as much as possible, but i also wanted to a surfer. and so i grew up in gardena so you were split a lot of different ways. but i wanted -- when i heard carmichael speak, he said the mos

were beginning to say this country is coming apart, and over in baltimore, which burned badly, stokley carmichaelwho -- a racial incendiary who became a communist and went to ghana -- or guinea, he was encouraging the burning and looting, and the governor named spiro t agnew called in the civil rights leaders and read them the riot act for not condemning the racial insend -- racial incendiaries. he said i condemn all these white racists. now you have to condemn these guys that are burning down our city. and agnew was known as a liberal governor. he had been a rockefeller man. but he did a tremendous job, and i have notes of all of this and clippings and i sent those to , nixon because i was very impressed with what agnew was doing. and nixon was equally impressed, as we would find out later. and then my alma mater, columbia university, before ail april was out, exploded in the worst violence of any campus in the 1960s. mark rud, you hear about it now. they took over the campus. took over the dean's office. they trashed the dean's office. and it took a week, they finally called the new york -- nyp