ti the president should stop stonewalling. this investigation and all the other investigations into his alleged ground on an wrongdoing, using his full constitutional authority. if congress in my view should demand the information he has a legal right to receive. the president does not comply with such a request from the congress and i continue to cro cross, andou no choice but to initiate impeachment. that would be a tragedy but a tragedy of his own making. >> tucker: brian, thanks so much for coming on. so is this a wise idea do you think, the apparent beginning of impeachment? >> no it's not. pelosi announced the titanic

so in the end, what is a so what of the stonewall jackson. it was seen as a great contingency point strategically at the time by the confederate people in the confederate leadership and also directly impacted what was the most significant campaign if not one of the top three most significant campaigns in the civil war which would be the pennsylvania campaign in the summer of 1863, as lee moves north, he will not have jackson and that folks, makes all the difference. thank you very much. [applause] and be very happy to take any questions and we remind the audience that there are microphones positioned on the sides. >> the human much for the talk. a couple questions with the general, when the legacy when someone dies early, they show up on money and other aspects of people believing in them what would be if he lived if you was not shot, and the crooks were lee might have said these other things you are not doing well and the pressure that we need to replace you jackson, for religious reasons or health reasons that he had that might've been esca

i mean, the mueller probe, that was stonewall, stonewall, stonewall.fferent in of the piece and the other thing to talk about in regard to the time line. impeachment remains and impeachment prior to the ukraine revelations were still 55 to 60% of the public opposed it even when 38, 39% approved of donald trump. that number will go up, but the question is do you do it if it gets pushed back into an election year, does it become perilous? we don't know yet. we'll have to see the ukraine story and that has changed at least how some people perceive it and that's the balancing that nancy pelosi will oppose because you want to score partisan points and you have liss and less people behind you. >> everybody stand by because there's a lot more we need to report on. there are increasingly new developments unfolding, and they call themselves, the bad asses, the congresswomen changed the course of the inquiry. dana bash, what are these women saying now? stay with us. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from anyone else. why accept it from your allergy pills? fl

and it's time for the administration to stop stonewalling and provide congress all the facts it needs, including a copy of the formal complaint made by the whistleblower. and it's time for the congress to fully investigate the conduct of this president. the president should stop stonewalling this investigation and all the other investigations into his alleged wrongdoing. using full constitutional authority, congress can demand the information it has the legal right to receive. if the president does not comply with such a thing. by continuing to obstruct congress and flout the law, donald trump will leave congress, in my view, no choice but to initiate impeachment. that would be a tragedy, but a tragedy of his own making. i've always believed, and still do, that america is a truly special and unique nation. better than any other nation in history. we have made the experiment of self-government work. we have always been a beacon to other countries around the world. we know who donald trump is. it's time to let the world know who we are. thank you very much. >> on the phone with us is je

the president should stop stonewalling.stigation, and all other investigations into his alleged wrongdoings. using his full constitutional authority congress, in my view, should demand the information and has a legal right to receive. the congress does not, the president does not comply with such a request of the congress, he continues to obstruct congress and flaunt the law. donald trump leaves congress in my view no choice but to initiate impeachment. that would be a tragedy, but a tragedy of his own making. i have always believed and still do that america is a truly special and unique nation. better than any other nation in history. we have made the experiment of self-government work. we've always been a beacon to other countries around the world. we know who donald trump is. it's time to let the world know who we are. thank you very much. >> mr. vice president -- >> actually -- let's go, we've got david chalian and dana bash and jennifer rodgers. jen, first to you, you heard you say abuse of you power. enough of this qu

the stonewalling days are over. whether that was prudent for the president remains to be seen. >> you are doing significant reporting on this. we've also learned that the white house had gone to pretty remarkable lengths to try to protect or hide other conversations, sensitive conversations the president had with vladimir putin for example, the saudi crown prince, mohammad bin salman. what are you learning about that? >> part of this is why this particular call was put into the code word classified system which is a completely separate communication system to lock down some of the most sensitive conversations of the president. the white house moved to move some of these more sensitive conversations because they were concerned about leaks. they were concerned because there had been leaks. there had been other conversations that the president had with australian foreign leaders, with mexican foreign leaders that had been leaked to the press. it seems based on what we're hearing that these conversations were put into t

i think it's important to look at, in what ways, for example, is stonewall as an outpatient treatment facility different than other facilities? i would say that, with know, the philosophy of stonewall is harm reduction, the philosophy that the city and county has had for two decades now. i think the way we apply harm reduction is different than applied by a lot of other organizations. and i think primarily, the philosophy of care at stonewall, if our participants are not successful, we are not successful. so when people bail out of care or are unable to access services or unable go to our services, then we look at in what with are we failing or not meeting where they are? what happens, our programs are expanded broadly and for example, we have 27 groups, approximately, a week, for our outpatient substance abuse program and half of those groups are available to people on a walk-in basis. meaning they don't have to enroll in the program or answer any those nosey questions and tn come in and feel an accepted for who they are and we can develop a relationship, that the kernel of the round

we won't let them continue to stonewall getting information to stonewall in getting information to us. we have a smoking gun and that smoking gun is called donald trump. and we already have him saying he did the call, we have the notes from the call that very clearly show he did something illegal. and i think now it is a matter of getting those key witnesses in, and whatever time that takes is what it takes. announcer: congressman kopan talks about the democratic leadership in younger members. 2020 politics, and u.s.-mexico border issues. newsmakers today at 6:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. tonight on q&a, as the house launches a formal impeachment inquiry into president trump, hear from james banner, editor of the book "presidential misconduct." in one of the historians who worked on the report commissioned by the house judiciary committee back in 1974 on the impeachment inquiry into president richard nixon. >> john doerr who had been appointed the general counsel of the house impeachment inquiry, thought of the utility of a report like this and turned to his friend, member of the l facu

we have a great history when they tried to beat us down at stonewall or beat us back at the edmund pettus bridge, we did not turn against each other. we grabbed hands, stood together, and told the whole nation, we will rise. well, if i am the nominate, i'm going to turn to you and say -- we will rise and make sure that we have health care as a right for everyone. we will rise and make sure we

lewandowski's stonewalling directly ordered by the white house which is claiming executive privilege even though lewandowski never worked in the executive branch of the federal government. we'll talk about the breaking news much more with congressman hakeem jeffries, among the lawmakers questioning lewandowski. and our correspondents and analysts are also tanding by. first let's go to our political correspondent sara murray here with us with details of this rather contentious house impeachment hearing. sarah, lewandowski and democrats on the panel came out swinging at each other and they haven't stopped. >> absolutely, wolf. corey lewandowksi was one of president trump's earliest and most loyal aides. he showed up at the committee today ready to take a few digs at democratic lawmakers and dodge their questions. president trump's former campaign manager stonewalling the house judiciary committee as the first impeachment hearing turned into a spectacle. >> it is correct as reported in the mueller report on june 19th, 2017, you met alone in the oval office with the president. >> is ther

but is that getting lost in the hours of all this stonewalling? >> absolutely.eople are getting more distracted by is the audacity of the behavior, but we've seen this from the very beginning, long before he was sworn into office -- i'm talking about donald trump -- long before -- at the beginning of his campaign, we saw this kind of behavior. so people keep going, oh, my gosh, i can't believe, i can't believe, i can't believe, and the reality is while we can't believe it, they are being the most egregious, unethical, criminal at this point administration that we've seen. and they're getting away with all the behavior because we're just so shocked. and at some point we have to release the shock and realize it is what it is, and it's time for them to go. >> all right. thank you all. i appreciate it. see you next time. >>> should democrats have been prepared for corey lewandowski's tactics? i'm going to ask one of his questioners. congressman jamesry raskin is here. that's next. for just $30 a line for 4 lines. and that comes on our newest signal. no signal reache

. >> the president should stop stonewalling. this investigation and all the other investigations into his alleged wrongdoing. using its full constitutional authority congress should demand the information it has a legal right to see. if the president does not comply with such a request of the congress, he continues to obstruct congress and flaunt the law. donald trump will leave congress, in my view, no choice but to initiate impeachment that would be a tragedy. but a tragedy of his own making. >> tucker: a democrat, a former cia officer and he joints us tonight. thanks for coming on. is this a wise idea, do you think, this apparent beginning of impeachment? >> >> no, it's not, tucker. the whole thing is a disaster. pelosi launched the titanic tonight in a gigantic iceberg in 2020. we had up until yesterday, really the last couple weeks it was all russia. as of later this morning it was ukraine. this afternoon pelosi says actually now that i know trump is releasing the transcripts of the phone call, it's not so much about ukrain

he's not going to look the other way as pompeo and trump and the administration try to stonewall. think the information is going to come out. we know that the foreign affairs committee is one of the committees that nancy pelosi has enlisted in what is broadly being termed an impeachment inquiry, and so eliot engel has probably more of a legal leg to stand on than he might otherwise have in demanding the information from the state department. >> what's at stake for pompeo at this point? he's missed two deadlines. if he misses another one, what is at stake for him? how far is heeling go essentially for president trump? >> we'll find out. it's interesting, christi. there's a possibility at least as the day reveals what we can find out, but i think it's entirely possible this is not sort of a trump and personal attorney rudy giuliani freelancing foreign affairs. as rudy giuliani has often suggested, the state department was part of whatever was going on as well. it's not as if there were rogue operators operating outside the purview of the state department. it's entirely possible the

he moves stonewall jackson up fast. they will fight a terrible they will fight a terriblealled battle in august of 1861 called cedar mountain. the confederates almost lose. the yankees make a tough push but ultimately the confederates hold on. photographers show up and show fresh graves and also dead horses at cedar mountain. photojournalism is being born in virginia. they're capturing all sorts of incredible things at this point. right from cedar mountain, the confederate continued on with a skeletal force and continued on at the second bull run where they did the same thing before. except for times more bloodily. 18,000 casualties. the union will retreat and barely make it back to washington, d.c. lee has had enough of that. mcclellan reinstalls the army fightll give chase and battles at harpers ferry. georgia: simpleton because he found special order 191 that shows that lee's army was dangerously divided at this point. ok. that was all one sentence. i thought i'd take a little break there. the confederates will hang

it's time for this administration to stop stonewalling and provide the congress with all the facts it. including a copy of the formal complaint made by the whistle-blower. using his full constitutional authority, congress, in my view, should demand the information it has a legal right to receive. the congress does not -- the president does not comply with such a request from the congress, it continues to obstruct congress and flount the law, donald trump will leave congress, in my view, no choice but to initiate impeachment. that would be a tragedy, but a tragedy of his own making. >> joe biden there, the intended target of donald trump's effort to conspire with the president of ukraine, there responding saying that impeachment may be the inevitable outcome here. be the inevitable outcome here. >> good for joe biden, that was a presidential moment. frankly his campaign got the optics right for that moment as well. the curiosityive iv have is, he down on the side of daylight. is that what nancy pelosi will say at 5:00? not the transformational leadership moment that we may see for nanc

otherwise lewandowski was stonewalling. but the point of that exchange is that here's lewandowski coming into the white house. and donald trump dictates word for word an instruction to lewandowski to tell jeff sessions then the attorney general about how he could unrecuse himself from the russia investigation and limit or limit nat the mueller investigation. that does seem to be very clear evidence of obstruction of justice. plus though this was contentious, it seemed very clear that lewandowski didn't follow that direction because lewandowski knew it was wrong. he made up various explanations about well i went on vacation so i couldn't talk to the attorney general which seemed per p eed preposterous. several people do not follow the president's instructions because they know it's wrong. and that is -- you know, you don't have to exceed at obstruction of justice to obstruct justice. >> that's vital. because otherwise he could say, well, he never did it. we never delivered the message, so it wasn't obstruction of justice. yo

clearly, the president has st e stonewalled. we can provide one more important way to overcome the stoneballing. that's to formally take our constitutional responsibility of investigating and holding people accountable an administration that is out of control engaged in illegal activities. not the least of which is the ukrainian issue and the emoluments. >> i'm anxious to see what comes out this afternoon. we will discuss this later. you are heading to ukraine at the end of this week. you will be at the center of the center of the center of it shortly. thanks for coming on. >> coming up, president trump is set to meet with the british prime minister, boris johnson, any moment now, after the british supreme court issued a major legal blow to johnson. what does this mean for him? and what does this mean for the conversation he and president trump are about to have? stay with us. is back for just $15.99. get all the shrimp you want, any way you want 'em. like new sriracha-honey shrimp, savory grilled teriyaki shrimp, classic shrimp

it is time for this administration to stop stonewalling and provide congress with all of the facts iteeds, including a copy of the formal complaint made by the whistleblower, and it is time for the congress to fully investigate the conduct of this president. the president should stop stonewalling this investigation and all the other investigations into his alleged wrongdoing, use his full constitutional authority, congress in my view should demand the information it has a legal right to receive. the congress does not, if the president does not comply with such a request from the congress, he continues to obstruct congress and flaunt the wall. donald trump leaves no choice but to initiate impeachment. that would be a tragedy. but a tragedy of his own making. i've always believed and still do that america is a truly special and unique nation, better than any other nation in history. we have made the experiment of self government work. we've always been a beacon to other countries around the world. we know who donald trump is. it is time to let the world know who we are. thank you very m

we asked for documents and we were stonewalled. not even so much as an answer. >> just ignored you. >> this administration thinks that congress doesn't have the right and the checks and balances we all learn from the kids in grade school. this administration seems to feel that it doesn't apply to them. >> so, you know, obviously, there are multiple sources on our latest reporting and one of them a former u.s. official. are you going to be trying to subpoena these individuals? do you even know who to subpoena at this point? >> i think those are things that will be determined down the line, but one of the things that's sure is in this impeachment inquiry, we are working together, and it's the foreign affairs committee and it's the other committees, as well and the intelligence committee and the oversight committee. >> three committees are all working together and there will be other chips happening soon. >> will you move to get access to the transcripts which we now know were walled off in some way. >> well, since we just found out a

over the last six or seven months the trump administration has had a complete stonewalling approach tory by the democrats in the house that who try to get information about the mueller report and the russia investigation. now all these democrats see tha and all these democrats see there is a whistleblower blocking, and they don't like the white house is even interjecting into this process. they have to turn over this information because that's what the law says. there is a lot of pent-up frustration and i think that's why you see the proverbial dam breaking. yes, he talked about his political opponent in a call with a foreign leader, but also the fact the whistleblower complaint has been withheld and it does seem like the white house is stonewalling. >> i think that's an important point because there are two different arguments. one is that if the president did something in terms of his conversations or with the ukranian president or the withholding of the information, that's grounds for impeachment. if the white house is refusing to comply with the law in turning stuff over to congres

by stonewalling work during the mueller years, it's different now because people will understand a lotetter how specific the questions are over specific interests -- instances, and certainly it would be hard to see that rudy giuliani cannot be forced to give information. >> lynn, stand by here. i want to get another take on a huge headline we're learning this morning. >> cnn learns it's not just the details with ukraine that the white house wanted to keep under tight restrictions. conversations with other world leaders including russian president vladimir putin, saudi prince mohammed bin salman were kept under wraps as well. >> senior correspondent pamela brown said transcripts were placed under more than normal tighter controls. >> they extended to phone calls with saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman and russian president vladimir putin. those calls were among the presidential conversations that aides took remarkable steps to keep from becoming public nchl the case of trump's call with prince mohammed, officials who ordinarily would have been given copies of a rough transcript neve

they're stonewalling and there is stonewalls.al run of the mill trump is not telling congress what congress wants to know issue. this is a really, really big deal. as big a deal as it is, it is also murky legally and when it comes to jurisdiction which is why you're having the inspector general who made a really rare trip to congress, the inspector general of the i.c. to go and testify. it is because the inspector general disagrees with the director of national intelligence, because the director of national intelligence doesn't want to give this information to congress. clear from manu's reporting that the i.g. went as far as he could go without really doing kind of subverting what his boss wanted him to do, but still he made it pretty clear. this is a five-alarm fire in the intelligence world. the other way it is very gray, josh can speak to this better than i can is technically -- technically -- i believe that a president, any president, can declassify information. it's just that, it's a question how he allegedly went about doi

. >> nextep on c-span to a look at the relationship between confederate generals and stonewall jackson. and then journalists that all starts now here on book tv. good

this witness was beyond stonewalling. he was just trying to kill time. >> what, if anything, can you do about that? >> well, i think we could hold him in contempt of congress. >> will you? >> i don't know that we will. i think we should and we should have done it before. i suggested we should have done it with the attorney general barr for refusing to show up and others. we need to get tougher because the republicans play tough. they are playing it because they know there's information to be gained from seeing information in the grand jury testimony and documents we subpoenaed and witnesses we subpoenaed and they're trying to stop it as much as they can. trump knows what's in there and he's scared. >> why do you believe the democrats have been ineffective or weak in dealing with the subpoenas and non-compliance in. >> i think the decisions made to go through the courts and the most traditional way as possible. we think we'll get ruling on mcgahn in october. that will go to the supreme court. that will take more time. the

when they tried to eat us down at stonewall or the evan pettis bridge, we grabbed hands, stood together, and told the nation that we will rise. if i'm the nominee i'm going to turn to you and say we will rise and make sure we have healthcare as a right for everyone. we will rise and make sure we have great public schools for every child. we will rise and make sure that unions are strong again and. we will rise and make sure that we take on the challenge of the climate crisis. we will rise and stand for veterans, and with them. and listen, there's a man who is trying to define this country at home and abroad. he wants the world to be about him but we know differently. he's trying to lie to us, to divide us, to demean and degrade the character of the country. this is a moral moment and we collectively have to summon the spirit of one of our greatest poets, my angelou maia angelou and say that they are trying to write our history with these twisted lies. i tell you right now america, like dust we will rise. we will rise. we will rise. we will rise. america, we will rise. thank you everybod

not going to stonewall me in my questioning. >> would you like me to answer your question. >> and you'reearing that the president of the united states in the oval office. he's directing you to deliver a message to the chief law enforcement officer in the united states. which you understood would effectively end the ongoing investigation into this president and his campaign. so you told the president that the message would be delivered soon. but then, on page 93, you immediately following the meeting with the president gave dearborn the message. the president dictated to be delivered to sessions. correct? >> i believe that's what the report says. >> and you didn't tell the president that you already asked dearborn to deliver the message. just said it would be delivered soon, page 92. correct? it's on page 92. you didn't -- want to tell the president that you were passing off his message to someone else. did you? you knew he wanted you, someone he described as his enforcer, a loyal soldier to do it, because the president trusted you. isn't that right? >> that's a question for the president

i can tell you democrats are growing ex as operated with the stonewau stonewalling this week with corwin lewandowski and they need to make a decision. >> you have an administration that says no. congress says, what day is it? the white house says no. i don't say it as a joke. this is a very serious matter, and some of these oversight issues are a very serious matter. the white house just says go away. then you have democrats in congress, not knowing what they're talking about, say impeach. just step back. they'll argue now over the semicolons in the law, and the whistleblower law. someone has filed what the i.g. determined to be an urgent, concerned complaint about the president of the united states. we are at a point where there is such distrust and lack of cooperation between the branches of government that the director of national intelligence just wouldn't go up to congress and say, i can't tell you everything, but let me at least give you a baseline, let me give you a threshold, we're investigating this, gone. the town is broken. >> that's definitely true, and part of what i'm curio

we have a great history when they tried to beat us down at stonewall or beat us back at the edmund pettusdge, we did not turn against each other. we grabbed hands, stood together, and told the whole nation, we will rise. well, if i am the nominate, i'm going to turn to you and say -- we will rise and make sure that we have health care as a right for everyone. we will rise and make sure we have great public schools for every child. sure thatse and make unions are strong again. thatll rise and make sure we take on the challenge of the climate crisis. and stand for our veterans and with them. man nowen -- there is a who is trying to define this country at home and abroad. he wants the world to be a about him but we know different. us, he isng to lie to trying to divide us. a is trying to demean and great the character of this country. this is a moral moment and we collectively have to summon the spirit. one of our greatest poets, maya through oursay actions and through our works that the man in the white house may try to wear down our nation -- right down our nation with his bitter lies. i t

nixon completely stonewalled and ended up betting article thr-- getting article 3. i would love to see them return to the old days having their own sergeant of arms enforce this. >> one of the problems attacking the whistle-blower, especially president trump, the major charges in the complaint, that president trump and rudy giuliani have been pushing ukraine to investigate the bidens, and that the transcript was put in this code secret sensitive server, those have been proven to be true. >> right. one of the problems with the republican argument that there's, that this is a secondhand account. we have a firsthand account. we have a primary source document, a partial transcript, a memo, it's not a complete transcript, obviously, of the conversation the president had with the ukrainian president released tuesday. we know what that conversation was. i don't know how they can keep making that argument. goes in line with the fact they say they haven't read it, read the complaint that came out yesterday. it's a little hollow. >> and let's talk about the republican reactio

it was not stonewalling, i didn't receive direction from anybody. was just trying to work through the process and the law the way it is written. >> the complaint also alleges that the was moved to a secret system in the white house. "reserved for colbert level intelligence information such as covert action." >> there is an allegation of the cover-up. >> if this military aid was withheld from an ally that is fighting off putin's russia and it was done so to be used as leverage to get dirt in a u.s. political campaign, don't you think that should be investigated? >> i have no situational awareness if that was withheld or why it was withheld, mr. chairman. >> i can tell you we are going to find out. >> but the complaint relied heavily on media reporting, which republicans compared to the democrat-funded opposition research targeting the president. >> much like the steele dossier, the allegations in the whistle-blower's complaint are based on thirdhand mainstream media sources, rather than first-hand information. >> two former intelligence officials tol

denying basically and and stonewalling them so they had to prove it themselves and they proved it around the same time that the navajo have been suffering for a lot longer there is another there's another water graces right now in new jersey with water sell by date or water being handed out. contamination in the water in in new a in chicago in i also did a piece for the internet its inputs and in this in every place there seems to be this pact playing down the problems what happens when you actually talk about water bottle prescription water bottle as if to only allow some people to have bottled water in the face of kids when they did water that was what the city officials in flint they wanted to start handing out all this free bottled water and so they suggested to the doctors in flint the physicians of flint and said well you know maybe not everyone needs books water you know maybe some people you know need more like reagan can we can give them prescriptions prescriptions for clean water and then they can go down to the water collection points and there's a line also in the film that t

. >> when she stonewall. >> when they stonewall you subpoena.mean, game over with allowing him to stonewall us on issues that are so fundamental. this is something the american people get. they might not understand how grave the russian intervention was in our election, but they do understand that people who are elected should not be making money off of the fact that they're serving the taxpayers of this country. >> holding the g7 at doral. >> oh, come on. you know, he's becoming the travel agent for the g7. and furthermore the only properties he wants to promote are his. >> i imagine if this was president obama doing it, your republican colleagues would be up in arms. why aren't they up in arms for this president? >> they're afraid. >> is that what it comes down to. >> absolutely. if they cross him he will tweet storm them out of office. that's what this is all about. all about self-preservation for my republican colleagues. >> jacob, what's next? >> that's my question. that's a question i have for the congresswoman, what's taking so long? if i

joseph maguire threatenened to resign over concerns the white house might try to just get him to stonewall congress? what do you make of that, congresswoman? >> women, you know, nothing surprises me anymore unfortunately this white house is more about stonewalling and ordering people not to testify, ordering people not to appear and doing everything they can to cover up some of their activities that nothing surprises me anymore. >> is that a bad thing? >> what? of course, it's a bad thing. you know. >> shouldn't we be surprised? these are extraordinary times. >> it is. how many times have y'all had the same breaking news? because something breaks every second, almost. >> yeah. >> for me it's like even the acting director said. you know, i, too, have sworn and oath of office for over 12 times in my 25 years of service. so i know what that oath says. we are to protect the laws of this country, and that's what this is all about. it's about the constitution, it's about national security. it's ash the heart of our democracy. it's not about this president. it's not about any president. it's abou

, stonewall, stonewall and take it to court and possibly have him tangled up for years. and democrats need to be prepared for that. >> quickly, barbara, where might that legally end up. >> it's been disturbing to see, for example, congress has sought to enforce subpoenas that the trump administration has been able to stall, stall, stall, and push the ball down the road, perhaps even beyond the 2020 election. and so that slow walk definitely is to the benefit of the trump campaign. >> slow walk to the supreme court? >> yes. >> thank you so much. julian barnes, as with an, and barbara mcquade, great way to start the show. thank you for your expertise. >>> still ahead for you, cory booker's call to action, a passionate plea to his supporters to go all in on his campaign or he'll have to leave the race. ways a catch. ways a catch. like somehow you wind up getting less. but now that i book at hilton.com, and i get all these great perks. i got to select my room from the floor plan... very nice... i know, i'm good at picking stuff. free wi-fi... laptop by the pool is a bold cho

this. >> you can't stonewall this and the reason you can't is that you have a trump-appointed inspectoreneral, not a democratic-appointed -- >> right. >> a trump appointee who said credible, urgent. >> right. >> and the combination of those two words in conjunction with a president who said yes, i did have that call and i did in fact ask him to investigate. >> yeah, we talked about the bidens and also you don't want to send money to these people if they're -- >> and by the way, i did it the day after robert mueller's testimony. >> right. >> oh, and, by the way, rudy giuliani, as we know in press accounts, constantly trying to get this jump started. so he had no -- there was no question that the only strategy here was to be as transparent as was expedient. >> there is new reporting tonight from "the washington post" about rudy giuliani's free lance or not freelance foreign policy with ukraine. the big question to me, brian, now are sort of what's the content of the whistle-blower complaint and the whistle-blower's testimony and if congress can get it and then how quickly this moves, beca

and that was years ago he has legal custody but the authorities are stonewalling for me not being able to see them see saw august 2017 is every day's a nightmare. and of course you see you prove you know you learn how to deal with these thing but it's not because i had to use a person. i'm betting. the following day we're at a new hotel it's closer to where the children are supposedly living but you're on after not will spend the night here. a lawyer and translator from tokyo are also here he hopes will soon have his children but he's worried. him and demanding more to smiting if the mother isn't there with the children and just won't work on site and or say the children are there without the parent who abducted them and filmed it on tide she has to be there for this to go forward on on and on this night and there's always the risk that she'll have gone underground with the children somewhere in japan. the next day we order a taxi it's another half hour to our destination. it's 7 in the morning the plan is that the children will be handed over just down the street the authorities don't

. >>> the stonewall, the republican stonewall in congress that has supported and defended donald trump at every turn throughout his presidency, that stonewall finally came tumbling down today on the matter of the whistle-blower. a whistle-blower has blown that stone wall down in just seven days. one whistle-blower has triggered a formal impeachment inquiry. just one week ago, michael atkinson, the inspector general of the intelligence community, secretly notified the house and senate intelligence committees that the trump administration was violating the law by refusing to turn over a whistle-blower complaint. tonight nancy pelosi became the fourth speaker of the house in american history to preside over an impeachment inquiry of the president of the united states. >> the president has admitted to asking the president of ukraine to take actions which would benefit him politically. the actions of the trump presidency revealed dishonorable fact of the president's betrayal of his oath of office, betrayal of our national security, and betrayal of the integrity of our elections. therefore,

it is stonewall. issue after issue, administration official after administration official. and the administration is successful, it has been so far, for the reason that jeffrey said, because they're only recourse is that third branch of government and the courts and they're not known to move very quickly. >> i'm sorry just -- what is so maddening about the situation is this whistleblower has done the right thing. >> exactly. >> gone through channels and that is why the laws exist. this is not edward snowden who took the secrets and gave them to the press. this is a person trying to follow the rules and -- and is being thwarted by a process that is supposed to allow -- >> and it makes you for the whistleblower because it is money who clearly understands the process. >> it is probably a significant person. april ryan, the stonewalling act tick -- tactic is the preferred tactic of the trump administration in dealing with the house majority on so many other issues right now. >> yeah, well we've seen this over and over again. but someone that i've talked to just before we came o

so i can't imagine your surprised by his stonewalling today. what is the point of having a hearing with a hostile witness? >> well, you could have a hearing with a hostile witness if you can extract from that individual important information. he is refusing to answer. and so when you refuse to answer, i think you have but one course of action. and that is by ensuing what would be calling inherit contempt and then start fining him. and the only thing that talks around this administration is money. so if you start fining him, say, 5, 10, $15,000 a day at some point you'll get him to comply. >> well let me ask you one other question about critics that house democrats aren't being tough enough, but what about those on the right or the middle of the country who say i don't understand what you are doing and the mueller report didn't find any evidence of conspiracy, why are you having this hearing as opposed to doing the work of the american people, what would you say to them? >> well what i would say to them that we can, in fact, walk and chew gum at

stonewall, stonewall the congress while testifying coming up tomorrow on capitol hill.hite house denied it and now their director of national intelligence has denied it as well. he said this simply did not happen. there's one other matter that we need to update we were talking about that seconds ago, if the control room could remind me. there's a lot going on at this moment. i guess not. fox news senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano is here. we have been able to see now the transcript of this phone call between zelensky and the ukrainian president and president trump that president trump just called a hoax. from this transcript, the details of the call, what's your biggest takeaway? >> that after the president of the ukraine said we need to buy more, a specific type of missile, the president said we are interested in helping you but we need a favor and he articulated the favor at the time, you have to take this in context. the context is the united states government is sitting on a commitment to wire $140 million to the ukrainian government. and to sell a qua

if i don't get anything done, it is because the democrats were stonewalling. from knee, they don't want me to change, to protect you or to fight for you. >> let's think about -- >> that was about 2016. and i disagree with it, but -- >> you don't think that it will be effective any longer? >> to an extent it will be. but i don't think that we're talking about the past, we are talking about the president of the united states interfering in the 2020 election. we're looking proactively. so maybe you thought that he was dumb and couldn't figure out what the russians with are doing. i don't believe that, but i think that they knew exactly what they were doing in the trump campaign. but in this case, they know exactly what it was and he did it from the owe vauval office. >> let's bring in congressman quigley. i know congress is on recess. i want to ask you about tproces and how you -- >> on my way here, there were three stories breaking so the process is changing. >> tell us what it will be like in these othhearings. will rudy giuliani be questioned by subsequent mem