what led you to say we need another fee of stonewall jackson? been 36rtson: there had biographies of stonewall jackson done before i got into it. each one got progressively worse. [laughter] hadrobertson: the last one a picture of a man on it and he was not stonewall jackson. admitted to half of what he said was fact any other half was fiction. he did not bother to tell us which half was wet. a congress in lexington, virginia with a group of historians. i raised the question, i am thinking jackson needs a new look, and they all agreed. had a long talk with my first wife and i told her this will be a long project and you'll suffer a lot of neglect. you said, nothing in the research and writing about this biography were straightforward. what did you mean by that? in another talk that nothing in the research and the writing of your jackson biography were straightforward. what did you mean by that? you said it was not straightforward. you are speaking of jackson sources. you were surprised along the way. wanted to do: i what i had been overlooked. i

stonewall jackson. >> [inaudible] bernadette right. :you see how important last words were for them back then? we know it today, 100 years later, we remember his last words. the most important thing about the good death is the family would have comfort knowing that they died at home surrounded by loved ones. they would have a clean conscience. they would have closure. then after they died, we had to the wake and the few funeral, which was interesting. drapeden, homes would be in black, hanging off the windows and off the doors. there would be a black wreath on the door to let the community know that somebody had passed away. the person would be laid out inside the house. they did not have fewe funeral parlors back then. so you had to have a loved one for a friend willing to lay you out in the house. the room would be -- the parlor would be filled with flowers to mask the odor of death because the embalming was not big back then until the civil war came around. clocks were stopped. that is an antique clock. they would stop the clock at

should not come down, so when the city voted to take the statue down, also to remove a statue of stonewall jackson, these groups went to court and sued, so it is wending its way through the legal process. last night when demonstrators rallied around the statue, one of their demands was that it be removed. host: do you know of specific plans for today, in charlottesville? this group said, that rallied last night is supposed to rally again today. on a happier note, there will be a very large gathering in charlottesville's park, an arts park. about 400 people are expected to gather there to sing songs of unity. "we are the world," "hallelujah, " to sing because they want the world to know what happened in charlottesville last year was not in any way a representation of the city. charlottesville, for all of the racial problems we have had, is i would say for the most part a liberal and well-meeting place, and like so many -- well-meaning place, and like so many cities in america, we are trying to work things out, trying to find a way to live harmoniously, to celebrate diversity, and that performance w

lee and stonewall jackson, not 150 years ago, a year ago, you're running for senate now.about what you said a year ago. you can call me whatever name you want, that's fine. you're saying that you're running for senate, you're saying that we shouldn't go back 150 years, you went back 150 years, a year ago. explain to me your statement, your feelings about me, believe me, is not something that i'm going to worry about the rest of the day. i'm i want you to explain to me -- >> i'm glad you feel that way. >> -- and i want you to explain to the citizens of virginia how you can praise stonewall jackson and robert e. lee and offer yourself to the citizens of the state. >> virginians -- i wasn't born in virginia, i always loved virginia, virginians have the heart of a warrior, they have the heart of a rebel. this is a great state. it is the state of the revolution. and yes, it was a state of the civil war and so forth. but what i love about the state is the fact that people are willing to stand up and when they know something is wrong, they're willing to go forward and willing to

lee, stonewall jackson, jefferson davis and these monuments and yet here's something that's supposedlyrror, but it doesn't really. >> here's the thing. what we saw in charlottesville was sparked in defense of robert e. lee, a statue, but we knew it was more than a statue or monument. it's a proxy for white power, white the supremacy. there are artifacts all across the country, like that auction block, which is an actual auction block where human beings were bought and sold in this community by people in this community for 100 years. people walk down that street and it's a reminder of how they were dehumanized by people in this community. there was a debate on city council. they voted 6-1 to keep the block there for educational purposes. the lone black dissenting vote was the only black city councilman on the council. beyond the big statues, in fair view, kentucky, where jefferson davis was born, you have the statues of robert e. lee and jefferson davis and then things baked into the fabric of our communities that are sheer reminders of just what happened to so many of us in this countr

then of course, stonewall jackson, the man, soldier, and the legend. that particular book 18 individual awards. he has been hailed as the father of virginia state's song, the anthem how are great virginia. with moving lyrics to the two -- dune of shenandoah which is near and dear to us, it was adopted as the state song in 2015. and now solidly in his 80s, he has not slow down much at all. his recent books include the untold civil war, that he worked on with national geographic. after the civil war with national geographic and civil war echoes. he is currently working on an encyclopedic dictionary of robert e lee. i am humbled that this man even knows my name. i am proud that he is here today . i would like to introduce to you our dear friend, doctor robertson. [ applause ] >> thank you kevin. good morning, everyone. for the first time in my 60 year career, i must say that i take no pleasure in the talk that i'm about to give. yet it is time that the other side be hurt. in this monument. further, as the keynote speaker for your conference, and i am humb

is of theoto here original stonewall jackson grave , which is in that cemetery, but he was moved to afferent spot. there are women and everybody surrounding his grave. he was such an icon of the time. his death made him more popular. they would take photos like this around the grave. womane where there is a grieving at a grave of a loved one, yet in the background there are two ghostly figures, north and south, shaking hands, making amends. and, of course, my favorite is called -- it is george washington welcoming abraham lincoln into heaven. these were sold in mass lawyer after lincoln's assassination -- volume after lincoln's assassination, as well as cards,ts, mourning ribbons. there was a lot of money made from lincoln's death. ok? is one of my most interesting parts, postmortem photography. is anybody familiar with this? they actually are doing this again in hospitals when little , ores are born stillborn when they die shortly after they onlyorn, and it is the memory you are going to have of that child. this is what postmortem photography was all about. industry was in its infanc

stonewall jackson in yellow. jeff stewart is the blue one. forrestnathan bedford him,e top left and below pierre. you know who i am talking about. they are the most prominent on the landscape. in richmond, we have a number of confederate statues throughout the city. the one that is more prominent are the five on monument avenue, the grand boulevard developed as a real estate boon. a thing folks don't know and we had the opportunity to share, it was never, monument avenue was never intended to be confederate row. it happened happenstance. leeappened shortly after died. it was clear everyone wanted to do some kind of memorial to lee, and it became a conversation about it can be nowhere else but richmond. it took 20 years. when it was finally determined to place it on the western side theren that had nothing but an open field, and the desire to bring this old heart, the house building began in earnest. today it has some of richmond's , in expensive real estate the state, frankly. the area is a national historic district. each of these monuments,

stonewall jackson in yellow. jeb stuart is that large blue. and top left, nay that forest and below him is pierre sultan. so, yeah -- yeah, bauregard. you know what i'm talking about. they are the most prominent on the landscape. so in richmond, we have a number city but the most prominent ones are the ones that sit -- it was never -- monument avenue was never intended to be confederate row. it really kind of happened happen stance. and it happened happen stance shortly after lee died. and it was clear everyone wanted to do some kind of memorial to robert e. lee and then it quickly became a conversation of it can be nowhere else but richmond. and then it took another 20 years before that happened. but when it was finally determined to place it on this western side of town that actually had absolutely nothing there but, you know, big open fields, but the desire to build this brand boulevard again, the house building began in ernest. today, it boasts some of the richmond's most expensive and impressive real estate in the state. the whole area is

you have stonewall jackson in yellow. jeb stuart is the large blue. and nathan bedford forest, in the top left. and below him is pierre toutant. so -- yeah -- beauregard. you know what i'm talking about. and they're the most prominent on the landscape. so in richmond, we have a number of confederate statues located throughout the city. but the one clearly that is more prominent are the five that sit on monument avenue. the grand boulevard in our city that was developed as a real estate boon, and it was never -- and this is a thing that folks don't know, and what we -- we had the opportunity to share with our community, is that it was never -- monument avenue was never intended to be confederate row. it really kind of happened happenstance. and it happened happenstance shortly after lee died. and it was clear everyone wanted to do -- do some kind of memorial to robert e. lee, and then it quickly became a conversation, it can be nowhere else but richmond. and then it took another 20 years before that happened. but when it was finally determined to place

he wrote stonewall jackson, the man, the soldier, the legend. awards.k won eight he has been hailed as the father of virginia state song, the virginia." great it was adopted as the state song in 2015. slowed80's, he has not down at all. his recent books include "the untold civil war." "after the civil war." voiceswar echoes and from virginia." he is currently working on an encyclopedic dictionary of robert e. lee. i am humbled this man even knows my name. he is here today. i would like to introduce to you dr. budd robinson -- dr. budd robertson. [applause] dr. robertson: thank you, keven. good morning, everyone. for the first time in my 60 year career, i must say, i take no pleasure in the talk i am about to give. it is time the other side be monument.his as the keynote speaker for your conference, plus the fact i am the eldest member of the cast by a number of years, i will drift far field to discuss the national issues of which civil war monuments are taught and to the factors that lay behind the insanity in which we live in many sections. res

lee and stonewall jackson and j.e.b. stuart. >> that's right!the base of it, virginians, we think for ourselves. >> yes. >> and if the established order is wrong, we rebel. >> amen. >> we did that in the revolution. we did it in the civil war, and we're doing it today. >> stewart, who grew up in minnesota and moved to virginia in his late 20s is facing incumbent democrat tim kaine this november. stewart responded to the video telling cnn, unlike wimpy tim kaine, republicans have a warrior spirit. >>> newman's new tell-all, the reported secret recordings she made during her time working with president trump, what they allegedly reveal. plus, bill karins is back with another check on the forecast when we return. ♪ ♪ a hotel can make or break a trip. and at expedia, we don't think you should be rushed into booking one. that's why we created expedia's add-on advantage. now after booking your flight, you unlock discounts on select hotels right until the day you leave. ♪ add-on advantage. discounted hotel rates when you add on to your trip. only when

that wonderful book about general hill, soldiers blue and gray, and, of course, stonewall jackson. the man, the soldier, the legend. that particular book won eight individual awards. he has been hailed as the father of virginia state song, the anthem our great virginia. with moving lyrics to the tune shenandoah, which of course is near and dear to our hearts here, it was adopted as the state song in 2015, and now solidly in his 80s he has not slowed down much at all. his recent books include the untold civil war that he worked on with national geographic, after the civil war, also with national geographic, and civil war echoes and voices from virginia 1859 to 1891. and he's currently working on an encyclopedic dictionary of robert e. lee. i am humbled that this man even knows my name and i am proud that he is here today. i would like to introduce to you our dear friend dr. bud robertson. [ applause ] >> thank you, keven. good morning, everyone. for the first time in my 60-year career i must say that i take no pleasure in the talk i'm about to give. yet it is time that the other sid

so when the city voted to take the statue down, and also to remove a statue of stonewall jackson, these groups went to court ensued. so, it is now going through the legal process. last night, when the demonstrators rallied around the statue, one of their demands was it be removed. host: do you know of specific plans for today? in charlottesville? guest: as i said, this group that rallied last night is supposed to rally against today. on a happier note, there will be a very large gathering in charlottesville. it is an art park. about 400 people are expected to gather to sing songs of unity. "we are the world," "hallelujah," to sing out because they want to tell the world that what happened in charlottesville last year for the representation of the city. of all the racial problems we have had, it is a liberal and well-meaning place. and unlike other cities in america, we're trying to work things out. we are trying to find a way to live harmoniously, to celebrate diversity, and that performance will be part of the effort. host: these are among the ways that the city is trying to heal. how

lee and stonewall jackson and j.b. stewart.r is wrong, we rebel. >> amen. >> we did that in the revolution. we did it in the civil war. and we're doing it today. >> stewart, who grew up in minnesota -- >> of course he did, by the way. >> and moved to virginia. >> they're always the worst. transplants in saying hey, i'm a rebel. >> is facing incumbent democrat tim cain this september. he responded to the video saying unlike wimpy tim cain, virginians have a warrior spirit and a rebel heart. in a tweet yesterday that stewart has since deleted, he attacked michigan democratic candidate for governor abdul el sayed as a, quote, isis commy. oh, my god. these people. >> where is it coming from? he comes from minnesota and he's trying to play tough southern boy. >> minnesotans are usually nice people. >> but he's not. you should go back. >> i don't think they want him. >> ned of trying to play the role of tough southerner. john meachum -- >> oh, lord. yeah. >> i really -- i don't know where to start except, unfortunately, you can find