so i studied with roger who teaches a wonderful course and memoir writing at stony brook southhampton. i studied with him twice and he taught me this is more like writing a novel than anything else, except it's about real people and real events. and you are the character and many of the characters. you have two separate from yourself and righteous of as a character. >> was that tough? >> yes, but it was fascinating because it was a new way to express myself, learning something new, that always turns me on. >> you write in "daring" you were a late blooming problem drinker speak was a late blooming what? >> problem drinker. >> yes, i was. >> might surprise some people. >> yes. because the long years of taking care of my husband, not being able to work for it often, pulling back my social life at the beginning walking from the nursing home down columbus avenue and stopping in a sports bar and having two or three glasses of wine until i realized i was turning into the alcoholic that my mother had been, and i was always afraid that could happen. and that led me into a 12 step program that