not true, there's a five storey building across the street, there's a 7 storey building 300 feet away right on the edge of the liberty hill neighborhood, it's comparable to ours, they say the project is at least double the units of any building on hill street, that's not true. number 8 hill street right next door to the requesters property has 9 units, number 12 hill street on the other side of her property has 7 units, and in their backyard over there, they have 12 units on 21st street. there's 13 units, that's one unit more than we're putting in on the corner of hill and gorero, so the dr request is full of misstatements and down-right specious allegations and objections and i hope you have a chance to read it. thank you. >> is there any speakers in support of the project sponsor? >> good evening, commissioners, my name is kimberly con l*i , we are few and far between in support of this, just here in person today, but i felt it was important to come because there is quite a bit of support for this development in the neighborhood. as a young professional who originally moved to the m

place, there may be taller buildings two blocks away but that is not relevant, this is a five storey build hating will tower. policy 316, this building fails to respect the hiekt, mass or design of the many exemplary historic buildings around it and finally there is an entire chapter in the missionary plan about historic preservation, this building is -- this project is surrounded by historic building all of which have been built ot the same time and coordinated with each other, it should enhance the community character. thank you. >> thank you. >> may i be the first to wish you a good evening, commissioners, my name is leonard fisher, i've lived on hill street for over 30 yearsfinger i like the neighborhood when i moved in, i like the neighborhood now. we have a wonderful mix of singles, of families, of young and old, we have quiet residential streets in the unique and dynamic commercial corridor on valencia street. i'd like to see an appropriate mixed use development on this corner, it's a corner that should connect the residential and commercial aspects of this historic neighborhood and

essentially, in those instances, we usually have a prevailing building plan that is usually two levels up on the street, you're adding a third storey, we required to be set back in this particular case, we don't really have that. the heights of the building, i mean, it's slightly set back for architectural character, but as far as requiring that it maintain like a 15 foot front setback, it was considered not appropriate by residents for this particular situation. >> okay, i understand that but that's a strict interpretation. you have a turid on one side, you have this kind of architectural detailing and this is square and sticks out to the front, that's what bothers me about it. i don't mind having a third floor there, but i think it's the lack of some gesture to set that back, the first and second floors are below the roof lines of the other buildings and i think it would help to have a larger setback than what the architect currently is proposing. that particular space is identified as a study, yet it's shown as a bedroom. it doesn't have a bathroom attached to it, but there's a sink, there's other amenities, i understand that, b

and that's what i'm concerned with here, a five storey modern condo that towers over smaller storey buildings whether designated or eligible on our street i don't think is making an effort to fit in, in size or style or other aspects and i feel if i had seen more engagement with the community from the developers and/or efforts to compromise with the neighbors with some sort of smaller scale proposal with the development, i would be more happy with it. it's important that the area retain its appeal that pedestrians would want to wander around and window shop, and that sun isn't blocked out with a gigantic building, many for your time. >> hello, my name is susan warren, i've been living on valencia street for 17 years, building a building at this site would be like building a brick wall, it would be like an obstruction, it would be abnormal for this area. i'm a part-time teacher and what i tell my kids, if it doesn't look right, if it doesn't fit, you need to go back and find something that fit and is this building doesn't fit and i think we need to go back and look at it again and find somethi

tennis courts with a 13 storey building flying across the bay at something approaching 50 miles an hour, it's going to be bloody spectacular. so, with that, any questions that we can help you with? >> thank you. commissioner moore? >> adam, could i ask you when the america's cup was before the planning commission, literally nothing worked and the project shaped itself with what was workable. last niekt, there was a hearing speaking about what worked and obviously much worked. was there anything that still didn't work which you're using at as a guide for tweaking, fixing, reinnovating, working through? >> thanks for the queue, commissioner, i have a slide specifically on this, so in the big picture, resounding success. with any kind of e -- event of scale, you can always improve things upon, for october, we had fantastic augmented muni service, cab stands, we had bikes l.a. and we attempted to market that but just in talking to people out on the streets, it was difficult for them to understand where was the augmented service coming and going, where was the like l.a., so we're going to be

thing is, the photos, if you look at the other corner lots that do not step -- there's that 7 storey building at lexington that shoots out, it's a historic -- >> maybe commissioner antonini has an idea. >> well, thank you, i don't know, i'm very sensitive to what project sponsor's gone through and as was mentioned frequently, we have almost no buildings that were built between 5 and 9 units in the last five years and this is a 12 unit but it's getting close to where it isn't going to make any pencil out if we're going to have to take units, it sounds easy enough to add a floor off on the unit level and take a floor off, i'm not sure if it works out to have the 8 -- 2 bedroom unit and is the 4-1 bedroom units ts, i believe that's what we're looking at, we start losing one of our two bedroom units or something, i would be hesitant to do that even though it seems to make sense. i would probably make a motion just to approve the project with -- as designed right now with working with staff to try to incorporate some of the things that the commission has talked about with the treatment of the bay

two-storey building. he's owned it first as a gallery. later as off-sale wine, liquor. on-sale -- retail wine tasting and wine sales inside on the second floor. these licenses would replace that license. i think it would have less impact on sale. alcohol has a less impact on the public than off-sale does. this license will be sold out of the area. we've looked at the conditions. we are fine with the conditions. with one proviso. mr. sirhed is concerned that -- he is going to be getting a lot of local tourists out of the hotels. they may be on different time zones, they may be up early. he would request that the hours go to what the abc allows, which is 6 a.m. and probably is never going to use it accept for world cup and certain items, but world cup, if you have ever been at 6:00 or 7:00 at a bar showing the world cup, it is quite a popular thing to do. mr. sirhed is going to keep the price points low, like the other bar. we want to be great value. he is, unfortunately, one of the last people standing. our union square has become all national chains. owned and money goi

these 8 buildings in the proposed landmark district because of their exceptional architecture -- architectural character, they were built from 1911 to [inaudible] all are three to five storeys tall and built out to their lot lines, most are mixed use with commercial ground floor uses and residential above. every one of the 8 buildings was designed by a master architect, several of whom were including george apple ga*rt, kenneth mcdonald received their degrees in ecole des artes. all their material features define their architectural material and with their bronze plate glass window frames, the following slides illustrate each of the 8 buildings in the proposed landmark district, 150 franklin street is an apartment building in the c-3 g district, it was designed in 1912, on the right, 20 franklin street, is used for supportive apartments and has retail on the ground floor, also zoned c-3 g, was designed in 1911, 1649 to 51 market street is an apartment building with retail and along with the rest of the buildings is in the nct3 zoning district. it was designed by george apple ga*rt in 1912, on the right is 1667 market street which contains sro units and a vacant store front

area anyway but had to refresh myself because there are a number of smaller one storey or two storey buildings in here that don't meet the criteria under this particular district, but i hope don't get lost in the process here, and i'm sure if there are activities that come along, it will be caught through the environmental review process sxr the planning staff, so i just want to have people recognize that these aren't the only buildings that i think could possibly have historic significance in this same area and i'll go ahead -- what's the proper motion, move to recommend to the board of supervisors the approval of discontiguous marketplace. >> second. >> commissioner wu? >> i'm also supportive of the district, but being newer, i wanted to ask whether historic designation increases a property owner's cost to upkeep the building and whether or not that could be passed on to tenants? >> the cost to maintain a building should not be any different than they are currently and the rules and regulations through the rent control ordinance are not affected by designation. >> commissioner moore? >> i'd

comments or city building codes, the one change i heard them make, we were complaining about a five storey building, and the architect came and put a tower on top of it and his compromise to us was to take this tower off, we were told it was going to be on valencia street, now they plan to place it on hill street and call it 1 hill street. even -- that gives you an idea what we're dealing with. even at our last community meeting, we were expressing very valid concerns about the effect of traffic, congestion and parking and i asked point blank, how did you get here? their answer was by bus. the truth is they parked illegally on the sidewalk because an already stressed neighborhood has very little available parking and they could not find legal parking so they parked on the sidewalk. what we are going to get from this project is double parked cars and cars parked on sidewalks creating real hazards, ped raoe cyans and cyclist alike, we are here out of extreme frustration, we need your help, thank you very much. . inger good evening, commissioner, i initially came here to support the marsh because that

buildings. then there is too much area under third storey rear elevation, which will result in loss of privacy and light pollution to the d.r. request err's house. all three suggest proposed petition be denied. staff as well as sponsor has addressed to all these concerns in the report. would like to mention building scale and building street proportions. and building height along the subject block and adjacent of buena vista west range from two, three and four-storey above street. with the third storey addition the subject will be three storey tall. further more it is neither uncommon nor unprecedented to find contemporary and older architectural styles on the same block as well as on both adjacent blocks along buena visit to west avenue. regarding the parking space removed from the current garage, as well as one concern that was raised not stated in both d.r. applications but during process and review of applications, that is additional unit, disruptive property concept and alleged second unit, which was illegally constructed without building permit, occupied single-family's basement floor with i

buildings up xw are fairly close by? >> that's correct, it's a pretty varied hiekt, primarily two and three storeys tall but there are definitely a range of buildings along valencia street. >> and this is 112 at the highest point, as it goes uphill street, it drops down to around 70 or something, if i'm reading these renderings right. >> no, no, no. >> the hiekt is 55 feet. >> well, yeah, i'm surprised, okay, i'm not sure why these totals, this looks to me like 55 on here but somebody has 112, 97 on here, maybe it's in another direction, i'm not sure, these plans have two different height ts, we're dealing with 55 feet then. that makes more sense. okay, thank you. >> commissioner hillis? >> i think its concern is that the comments we heard from the marsh, from the project sponsor, we have this list of mitigation and kind of what they'd like to see happen during construction and before construction, have you had a chance to look at this? >> commissioner, we've had a couple of meetings with them and we're over there with their operations manager and we told them now is the time to get started on this, is there a drainage issue, w