stoughton: at some point, we need to change from conversation to action, and we are.to think at least some agencies are moving in the right direction.ng hahe conversation is important, but we have been having the conversatioe and it is t do something. training or agency culture, but also changes to stater law, example. changes to the way that office o are supervis evaluated. thinking beyond just throwing more training dollars at officers is going to bpaa necessar of improving policing. amna: seth stoughton, former police officer, now associate professor at the university of south carolina. prof. stghton: thank you for having me. ♪ ♪ democratic preside race. debate stage in westerville, ohio tonight, after former vice president joe biden's son hunter spoke publicly for the first time b about his role asrd member of a ukrainian gas company during the time his father was in office. president trump has spread unsubstantiated claims that the bidens engaged in illegal dealings in ukraine, and sparked the current impeachment inquiryp ssuring the country's leader to look into

seth stoughton, welcome to the news hour.ant to ask you about what we kn about the exact circumstances in this case.t the erim police chief, ed kraus, said earlier nobody looked at that video and said there was any dou this ficer acted inappropriately. you have seen that body camera foote. what to you says his actions were inappropriate? >> the thing to focus on hre is the officer's approach as he walked up to t window, the actions proceeding the shooting. what officers do leading up to a use of force can make a use of force either more or les likely. in this case, the officer's failure to identify the himself, the officer's failure to attempt to contact anyonin the house led to a pretty tragic and horrifying result.wh >> nawazt other questions do you have right now, based on what we've seen, what do you dhi we still don't know that you'd like to know? >> there are loof things we don't have right now. we don't have statement from the officer. my understanding is at this point he's not cooperated with the investigation. i have