it is an irony came strassburg because the argument was no legal aid civil cases at that time. the case are back to strassburg a year or two later before the court of human rights and was very heavily argued by the government of ireland because they could see the implications. if the case exceeded, ireland would have to introduce a citizen as federal aid to pay lawyers to bring aid to poor client. there is a very vigorous case and eventually present because we are also supported by the commission, we want on those two articles, six and eight of the convention but denied access to justice and bless and protect you and family life. they made a wonderful speech, which the irish newspapers carried that wasn't just for me. this was women who are denied justice. why should we put up with being eaten in our homes and not go to court. it was a wonderful moment and i was particularly touched when i got a letter from a key senior counsel who might dare greatly. he was such a leader and inspirational barrister called tommy calmly and he wrote me a letter congratulating me letter congratul