when i was working a lot at stratford years ago i used to walk down to holy trinity church late in the afternoon and sit in one of the front pews where i could see the tomb and i would say to this guy "help me out. please help me out. i don't know what i'm doing." >> rose: dear willie, dear willie. >> give me a sign! because, yes, there are these legendary actors who've given legendary performances in these great roles and ultimately they -- if you want to be a classical actor you have got to take off these roles because these are the roles that you'll be judged by. you know, if you believe -- if you hope that at some point you might have built up a reputation it can only be built on a certain number of roles exactly like an opera singer. there are certain roles you have to sing. >> rose: right. >> and if you don't, you're dodging the issue of the great challenge. if you can be brave enough and fear, you know, is -- plays a huge part in this, and it did for me for years, fear of failing. not fear of getting it right, but fear of failing. if you can dispense with that, it just opens up