. >> and the irony, amilya, the day before people found out they loved the strawberry frappaccinos, buts soon awes found out beetles. the other thing you want to know the government is okay with, canned mushrooms, maggots can be in there, 20 or more maggots, mold and rot is okay with the f.d.a. lment amount 12% or more. rodent hair, might find that in the peanut butter. the point is, adam, maybe these thing aren't bad for us, insect eggs and maggots aren't bad for it, i don't know, we don't want to-- >> here is what i-- here is what i think from your question, charles, i'm just appalled that you want us to have a nanny state where the government needs to be involved in every little thing no matter, no matter how small. >> adam, maybe, here is where you and i can agree. you made the point before saying we're not doctors, but these organizations also don't solicit the right talent to do the analysis, and think about small businesses and people are making-- >> your evidence for this is what? >> nothing about small business. maybe they shouldn't-- >> and the reference comes from where? they