really, the key here, elizabeth, is how you perceive the stress, that stressor, how you accept that stressor what your attitude is about it. if you can just, what i like to say, flip the script and trick the devil and view that stressor in a different way, then your body and your mind will respond in a different, and hopefully much more positive way. >> can you think of a time that you've had to do that, jeff, where you've had something stressful in your life and you've flipped it around? what did you do? >> well, i remember from many years when i had an employer before i started a private practice, i was actually very stressed out by the kind of work that i was doing. so what i ended up doing was changing my attitude. instead of seeing it as a burden, i was grateful that i had the job, but then i did specific things, elizabeth. instead of staying at my desk all day, i would take frequent breaks where i would take a breath, you know, walk around the particular place, so that was a way of disconnecting from that stress. most importantly what i did i learned to exercise, and i would do that be