i think the economic research shows at this point you are pushing on a strij, it hurts small businesses a lot. i will say this, this is a political mindfield for people to oppose this. it's hard for republicans in a time and place where you do have income inr and equality. you have an issue. >> people drop out of high school make a lot less. >> people and equality. >> people going to college are making less mine these days. that is an issue, politically, it's a tough sell, economically, the evidence is so clear, you start pushing on the string, will you get less jobs, you will not get that much more. people will not be helped that much more. >> the money will come from somewhere. it will mean fewer jobs and/or price increases in this very survey you cited, more than half of those businesses surveyed, 51% said they would raise, will raise prices. and that's how the minimum wage hike is aimed to help lower income people, but it doesn't help them because -- >> there is an assumption you can raise prices. last year, mcdonald's traffic was down 2%, if i don't want a big mac at $2, i don't wa