stronglyy, i would encourage -- we have got to develop a set of norms and principles for behaviors inthe space. absent that kind of thing, being totally on the defensive is a losing strategy to me. it will cost a significant amount of money. it leads to a much-decreased probability of mission success. it is not a good outcome for us in the long run. andyourself referenced representative rogers did in his opening statement, there does not seem to be a sense of risk among nationstates in the behaviors we see in cyber. you can do literally almost anything you want and there is no price to pay for it. that is not a good place for us as a nation. and more broadly, for us, internationally, to be in. we are trying to make an argument electively -- we need to develop a set of norms and behaviors that we can fundamentally agreed with, a starting point for how we are going to be able to act in this environment. i have seen an initial set of points that the white house has developed and shared and raised at a couple of united nations forums. hospitals, every nationstate should have computer emer