now, if blÖsche -- by the way, another bodyguard of stroop is here -- we should assume stroop is there we can see stroop bayh blÖsche and several photographs. and since konrad was ordered to accompany all the way, it is very likely that konrad was there. in addition, i will say that konrad states very clearly that he took photos, that he was a person taking photos in the ghetto -- none of the nazis remember this image. it is a monday manage for them, and normal seem as blÖsche says and tribal leader to be cannot recollect where the system and for us it is iconic of course because it is very likely, and a few other researchers agree with me, but this was konrad who took the photo. >> hi. in your research, the question that comes to mind is that little boy alone? do you assume his relatives -- what could you find out? >> i have no answers to that. the only thing i know about this boy, the one and only thing, is that he is probably younger than ten because he doesn't have a store. i don't know if the woman to the left of him is his mother or just someone else. i have no idea. i have no in

stroop was a veteran of world war i. here he is pictured with his colleagues in the department of the government in deathhold. i actually visited his home, and he was a highly -- he would have loved to have become an officer, but due to the structures of the social, the social structures of german society after world war i, he was unable o become an officer. and his opportunity comes in 1932 when he joins the ss. and heinrich hemler becomes a close associate of him, pushing him up the ranks very quickly to become a high-ranking ss officer. and on april 17, 1943, hemler phones up stroop and be orders him to warsaw to oversee the liquidation of the ghetto. stroop arrives there and promises to became out the ghetto within -- wipe out the ghetto in three days. and as we all know, this took him over four weeks. and at the end of these four weeks in the may of 1943, he submits three copies of a secret report to heinrich hemler, and it would later get into the hands of eichmann as well. a report entitleed, "there are no more je

stroop is there. that is almost obvious. we can see stroop by blosche in several photos. and since konrad was ordered to accompany konrad all along the way, it is very likely that konrad was there. in addition, i will say that konrad states very clearly that he took photos, that he was the person taking photos in the get toe. he does not recollect this specific image. it becomes, it is a mundane image for them. it's a normal scene for them as blosche says in the trial later. he can't recollect where this was taken, but for us it's iconic, of course, so it's very, very likely, and a few other researchers agree with me that this was konrad. who took the photo. >> hi, i'm carol, and i'm bond withering -- wondering, in your research the question that goes through my mind s that little boy alone? do you assume that his relatives are in that crowd? what could you find out? >> i have no answers for that. the only thing i know about this boy, the one and only thing is he is probably younger than 10 because he