we hav't arrived y at tt cost strture, t we're we very confident by nextear we will. down about $23 million, which allows us to run our busiss at a break-even. it's tough for anyby to make money in the auto industry. susie: youold me that gmdzwoul. are you still telling me you have to breakthat? >> we ven't targets and we'renoo view was onn earnings interest -- ebuilt, that we would be able to orate above break ev next year in our rth american business and we anticipate we can dohat. we have a bod of directors and we're gog to take it through the fincial projections. but we haven't upded anything from when we last prided that sort of information and there's nothing i would noteoday that would suggesthat things have chand. >> if gm doesn't make sales, ano this, but will you be forced to go back to the government to ask for more money? >> we n't believe.this is a rar. it's a second chce we had. it's a precious second chance. weave to take advantage of it. there are no 30hances. >> susiedo you have a plan? >> we think we can run thebusesr eak-even point down to a point w

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