burk strunski out of l.a., eric defense attorney in miami, jason oceans, defense attorney new york., let's kick it off with you. i was listening to what matt zarrell just said about this 10-year-old little girl's remains, her body hacked to pieces. i know for a fact reports are her clothing was neatly folded up in her backpack. so this is painting a horrible scenario as to the hours surrounding her death. and now we're just trying to decide, were her hacked-up body parts inside or outside of garbage bag? >> right. >> does colorado have the death penalty, anybody? clark, do they have the death penalty? weigh, in, jason. >> i hear where you're going in terms of this is the typical case out in the public eye. >> i didn't say typical. >> that would require us to think about the death penalty. before we get to that point, i think law enforcement needs to make certain about who they're targeting, making sure these aren't isolated incidents in and above themselves. >> it's death by needle, jason. >> that would be appropriate for the perpetrator who is convicted of these crimes, nancy. i do