. ♪ stuart: so many students, they're facing not face to face classing in the fall but online classes for so many people. i want to bring in the president of brownelcome to the program. great to see you with us today. can i first of all, i know you want to go back to face-to-face classes. are you going to do that at brown this fall semester? >> well, thank you for having me on the show by the way. i'm delighted to be here and i would like nothing better than to bring students back to campus in the fall safely and what we're doing right now is developing plans so that we can do that. obviously if the pandemic doesn't cooperate, it is just impossible, we don't do anything to jeopardize the health of our students and you are employees. we think if we really try, we have a good shot doing it. when i was a student, okay, many, many years ago, i enjoyed the university experience. and the university experience was rubbing my brain against the brains of other people. that is what we do. that was an education i thought, but you have to be at the college. i think you feel the same way? >> i do. you know, right now students, they're online, they are learni