stuart butler? >> well, a president can do three things. one is set a bold goal. president kennedy did that in the same get to the moon before 1970. we did it. they can instill confidence to ronald reagan did that in 1980 and turned the country around. they can conduct a conversation about things that need to be faced. bill clinton did that on welfare and social security. that is what i would devise the president to do now. whatever is the president really has to set a bold goals the you heard. it is very important the president goes out and talks about two particular things -- did a culture of savings rooted in this country, which means reducing debt on the other side of the coin. that is why leading a national discussion on that area is very important. a tax code that is considered on fair, that does not reward savings, investment, and works, is not going to be accepted by american people, and if people think it can be gamed, they will not have confidence. there must be a national effort in that area. thirdly, the president should go to the governors, the mayor,

. >> stuart butler has written a lot of books on destructive innovation. nera, what do you view as the significant leathers for boosting the opportunity -- levers for boasting opportunity and america? >> in the. of bipartisan cooperation, and reaching across the aisle, and trying to stretch ourselves, to gain greater support, i want to tie two things steps toward butler said. -- stuart butler said. hopefully we can work together on ideas around insuring that our tax system, and the way our government recognizes the need for support of individuals better reflects what was discussed, which is we should be helping people that need it, and a perfect example is the earned income tax credit, a system that rewards work through the tax code that ronald reagan strongly supported, and also eliminate tax breaks for corporations, and i would say restore productivity on the high-end of the taxpayers. one reason why that is important is exactly what was talked about -- there is a reaction in this country that the game is rigged against average americans and middle class