i've been working with my colleagues stuart butler and paul poster on how to come up with ideas. stewart went a whole round table on the process and the first panel to hear from today is a remarkable group called convergence brings together stakeholders from all different areas cut the kind of people who would normally be tossing food across the table at each other and fighting. and they are on many topics of the process to bring together people and work together for months and months to build trust, come up with shared values and principles it is an important part of the standing where we have in common it unites us than divides us even in the budget process and come up with solutions. the. there are more that we will be hearing in the second panel where my colleagues will come up with ideas to share with the group as well. it doesn't do enough to complain or identify why the problems matter so much fo but coming up with solutions is critical. let me take a couple of minutes to talk about the budget process and where we are. one of the things i already find most remarkable is th