stuart cohen, thank you for talking to us.t evidence, first of all, did police have before they arrested these suspects? >> welsh obviously, as with any intelligence operation, they're playing their cards very close to the vest, but one thing they did let out was that the raids that took place in sydney were based on an intercepted phone call between that senior isis militant, that senior australian isis militant that tony abbott mentioned in the piece before and omarjan azari, who was the 22 year old who is the only person who has been charged in these arrests so far. so that's the one piece of intelligence that they did let slip, that they had intercepted the phone call, and that's what put this whole operation in motion, realizing that they were close to possibly carrying out these attacks. >> woodruff: what made them think these individuals were actually going to carry them out? >> well, they have been having these people under surveillance for a while. that's the best that the police would say. they've been watching these

cohen performed the throat procedure on rivers. now we are learning that he faced a malpractice suit in 2004 for a similar operation. the manhattan clinic is currently being investigated. and matha -- martha stuarthe is not a fan of the web site goop. saying she needs to be quiet. she is a movie star. if she were confident in her acting she wouldn't try to be martha stuart. i love it tucker? >> thanks, clayton. drug use and sales is to decriminalize heroin and cocaine and regulate them through the government. would the strategy really help or would it hurt? joining us now is former drug czar, old friend john walters. good morning. >> hi, tucker. how are you? >> i'm doing great. this is a report from -- it's not an official report but it's from former heads of state. former u.s. secretary of state george schultz among them and basically concludes the war on drugs has been a failure. it's super expensive. people die as a result. let's just give up. what do you think of that? >> it requires us to suspend what we know. do the people, first of all, as you said, this isn't an official body. this is a collection of people, including the president of colombia when the cartels ran parts of the country. n