attorney stuart frankel knows the law in this area, even in new mexico.twoman who was injured in one of hollywood's movies, so he understands the analogy here on both sides of the table. thank you very much, counselor. now, i didn't hear you. let me see if it's me or if i can hear you. >> i'm hearing you loud and clear, chris. can you hear me now? >> are you trying to give me a heart attack? now you have criminal exposure. help us understand what is the universal possibility as you understand the circumstances at this moment? >> first of all, i think we need to say our heartfelt condolences to the hutchins family and to mr. souza. i hope he heals fast and he heals abwell. moving to the second part of your question, we're looking at two things. we're looking at criminal exposure, potentially, and we're looking at civic exposure. do you want to start with the criminal first? >> please. >> what we have here is a situation where the district attorney in the state of new mexico is going to investigate this potential crime. they're going to collect all the fact