dr stuart hamer us anna says ya just iraq sure of center for consciousness studies it's really great to have you here with us today consciousness is like one of my favorite topics so i can't wait to dig into your brain so you said that some concepts of consciousness are naive what concepts and why are they naive. most people would say that the brain is a computer of neurons acting as bits like individual on off states and that if you get sufficient complexity in competition that consciousness emerges the really there's no evidence for that that consciousness is an emergent property of computation it's an assumption that the brain is a computer but there's no evidence for that and i think it's a it's a poor assumption for example it assumes that each neuron is a simple on off switch yes or no but a single cell neurons or cells in a single cell like a paramecium swims around finds through defines a mate has sex can learn it escapes from a capillary tube faster and faster it's intelligent it may not be conscious but it's intelligent so if a single paramecium or even an amoeba which can