ian mcgeechan, richard hill, conor 0'shea, myself, ian ritchie, on the panel that appointed stuart lancasterpoint. at the time, it was felt that it was the right thing at the right time for english rugby. and again, stephen jones, get your facts right, i didn't appoint lancaster — not that it means much to stephen, but nevermind. but it is one of those things where, you look at the eddie appointment, and the decision was taken that we have to have a coach with international experience. they will not be english, because you have just sacked the one with international experience. so the decision there which ian talk with the backing of the board, and ian and i did speak about it, was who was available at the moment. who has real experience and can come in and take a good group of players, and yes, there is talent here, but the key thing in 2015 was international experience. i will move you on, because we are running out of time. but any information on the 2023 world cup? looks like a shoe—in for south africa. ireland are very disappointed. these processes are very robust in terms of what you h

former england player is making headlines again, blaming england's 2015 world cup performance on stuart lancasterack at back on the day because you played when it wasn't professional and it was a quite different sport in some ways. very different. i think people forget quite quickly. 20 years ago, i played to the mid— 80s —— in the mid— 80s to the mid— 90s, we all worked and played together. pictures like that. it was a completely different game. we hadn't been in the gym very much, obviously. the book is really a story office bought, that had been amateur for 100 years, going professional, and the challenges of going professional. rugby has sort of gone very quickly over 20 years and it still got teething problems and it's got some issues. you are still heavily involved with the rfu. you details on the book what happened in the world cup from your perspective. you've never held back with your opinions, that's yourjob in the game. does it come down to sam burgess? went wrong at the world cup? there's been a lot of focus on sam burgess. there's a lot of other stuff around the world cup. the issue