stuart loory? guest: well, august has always been a big vacation month in washington. i had a boss ones who said that the reason that the government did not work during the summer was because washington years ago was unairconditioned and was better to get out of town and back to the constituencies. host: what was washington like back in 1973 and 1974? guest: first of all, there was a bad feeling in town because of the watergate situation and the manner in which the administration had discredited itself. also, the way it was necessary for congress to bring this situation under control. of course, there were things like the saturday night massacre in which nixon tried to fire the special prosecutor who was appointed to investigate him. he went through the attorney general and at least one deputy attorney general who got the job them for him. it was a bad time. guest: yes, it was a bad time, and get it showed the resiliency of our democracy. he was a president who had been reelected carrying 49 states

stuart loory?l, august has always been a big vacation month in washington. i had a boss ones who said that the reason that the government did not work during the summer was because washington years ago was unairconditioned and was better to get out of town and back to the constituencies. host: what was washington like back in 1973 and 1974? guest: first of all, there was a bad feeling in town because of the watergate situation and the manner in which the administration had discredited itself. also, the way it was necessary for congress to bring this situation under control. of course, there were things like the saturday night massacre in which nixon tried to fire the special prosecutor who was appointed to investigate him. he went through the attorney general and at least one deputy attorney general who got the job them for him. it was a bad time. guest: yes, it was a bad time, and get it showed the resiliency of our democracy. he was a president who had been reelected carrying 49 states, yet there

john mashek who used to write for the "boston globe" and stuart loory who was with "the los angeles times guest: i would like to ask if in 1936 when your brother was elected to the congress, if you have any feeling at that time, or can you tell us about his feelings about whether or not he might someday become president of the interstates? guest: i think not. i was 16 years old. -- if he might become president of united states. guest: he was mainly interested in doing the best he could for the country, a country we all loved and still do. the idea of a higher office was perhaps in my grandmother's mind come millhouse. if you read the story in my book -- obviously, you two gentlemen have never read it obviously, but it does clear up some things. guest: well, i applaud your family loyalty. i dispute the were hate there. -- the word hate. when he was the running mate of eisenhower and the speech came up, could you give us a little background on that? it solidified his place on the ticket when eisenhower was advised by some backers to dump richard nixon. guest: harold was foremost among them