we wanted to hang back because we wanted to talk to stuart milk, his nephew. you spoke about history not repeating itself. we've made a lot of progress in gay rights but there's still a long way to go. >> we still have 2/3rds of the country states that have not approved marriage equality and then in the world we've got countries like russia that are moving backwards with laws that do not allow for gay pride marches or allow for events like tonight that a young person may see, and those laws have been on the books in some eastern european countries for a long time. there's 72 countries, it's still illegal to be a lesbian and gays and transgenders. >> what do you think your uncle would be proud of? >> san francisco's remembering its history, it wasn't harvey, he would say that himself. he was part of a move. that continues today and that you had all these leaders open the lgbt leaders of the city and folks in sacramento who were here in all of our allies that are still alive that -- and those that have come after george masconi standing on his shoulders supporti

stuart: but they're milking their installed base, aren't they?ies are out there in use, but somebody's paying money to use them. that's a cash cow. i mean, surely, the value of the company is a computation of how much money they're going to bring in in the future, like a utility, almost. >> yeah, that's right. they have to put themselves up for sale and i know the buyers are still leery right now. and that's the future for blackberry, break it up. stuart: we've put them on death watch. the stock starts to go up. [laughter] we've seen it before and maybe we'll see it again, who knows? but we're watching it closely. it's a big deal, according to the latest ap poll, the majority of people 50 and over support raising the cap on taxable earnings to help fund social security, to put it simply, the wealthy pay more. liz? >> well, this is always a conundrum about reforming social security, right? you cannot do it because there's such a political base supporting it. stuart: why can't we raise the retirement age? we are, after all, living a whole lot longe

stuart. [laughter] >> how convenient. milking for what it's worth.ubled movie company initially and this has been a huge, huge hit for them and smart in terms of rolling out of the movie. it's not 3-d. and they wanted to have a movie a year. 2-d. there's a plus and minus. stuart: and i'm hearing great reviews. >> on rotten tomatoes and it's trending ahead on twitter ahead of the last movie. stuart: are you going to see it tonight. >> i'm going tonight. stuart: this afternoon? >> this afternoon. [laughter] michael, thank you very much indeed. >> thank you, sir. stuart: we'll watch it. dropbox valued at 8 billion. music streaming service spotify gets a value of 4 billion. it's a new high-tech-fueled economy. how long? we'll deal with it next. ♪ just by talking to a helmet. it grabbed the patient's cord before we even picked himp. it found out the doctor we needed was at st. anne's. wiggle your toes. [ driver ] and it got his okay on treatment from miles away. it even pulled strings with the stoplights. my ambulance talks with smoke alarms and pilots an

stuart: you found it and you are milking it, bringing stuff up all the time. . that is where they would have had their stuff. stuart: the wreck is spread out under the sea under a couple of miles? >> so far we have a trail over 8 miles long. stuart: can anybody else rig up a diving suit, go down and grab stuff? >> no. we have been given an injunction area to keep everybody else, the government and the state of florida tried to claim ownership when we found it, after three years in court, the federal nued fornt dropped out, but the eight years and it went to the supreme court and they said finders keepers. stuart: so it is yours. you don't have to pay florida anything. i can buy shares in the operation. not a publicly traded stock, i can buy shares in your private operation, correct? >> correct. a private offering. stuart: i get a dividend when you bring something up, i get a dividend. is that how it works? >> we distribute the treasure so it is not a taxable event. stuart: that is good, very, very good. charles: so the risk goes if you come up empty-handed. >>

milk all over the street, now they're saying did back in the bottle. isn't that easy and very difficult for all these millions of plants that have been cancelled to simply restart. stuart is the demise of obamacare because all those millions of people who would have gone on the exchanges will not go on the exchanges, will not put money into those insurance pools but keep the insurance they have got. that is the demise of obamacare. >> obamacare, affordable care act at this level is an insurance program. insurance is about large numbers of people going into pools so the economic of the program didn't work. everything that is happening to obamacare is siphoning people of the program whether it is the web sites that are not working or cancel policies, number getting smaller and smaller and the economic collapse completely. stuart: this is a huge political retreat for the president. doesn't want to do this. he was forced by pressure from the democrats in the senate. >> democrats and the senator not panic. hey hagan from north carolina until three weeks ago was 17 points ahead of her republican opponent. she is 0 points at all three of them. that gets the attention of the s